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Rob R



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:47 pm    Post subject: Avoiding supermarkets; what are the alternatives? Reply with quote
    

As discussed here there are many reasons we may want to boycott supermarkets and we all know (well, nearly all) how easy it is to buy meat direct from the producer, but what about all those essentials that even the most determined downsizer finds themselves popping into the supermarket to buy? How can we do without/find alternative sources/cut the cost (cost savings can help fund those products that it really is worth/necessary paying more for). Contributions on both sides (asking and answering) are most welcome...

bagpuss



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Its probably the non food items which are more difficult than the food items

So what about

toilet paper
toothpaste
soap (I know you can make your own but not everyone wants to)
washing powder
cleaning fluids

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bagpuss wrote:
Its probably the non food items which are more difficult than the food items

So what about

toilet paper
toothpaste
soap (I know you can make your own but not everyone wants to)
washing powder
cleaning fluids


Daily Bread, its at our end of town, and its great for nearly all of those. And best of all, when you empty out your cleaning fluid, you can take it back for a refill.

And our toothpaste normally comes from Boots.

The only one of those we get from the supermarket is toilet paper. Dunno why we've never bought that from Daily Bread. Will investimagate...

paul1963



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bagpuss wrote:
Its probably the non food items which are more difficult than the food items

So what about

toilet paper
toothpaste
soap (I know you can make your own but not everyone wants to)
washing powder
cleaning fluids


Madame Paul's hair dye, sanitary products, elmlea, booze.



bagpuss



Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
Its probably the non food items which are more difficult than the food items

So what about

toilet paper
toothpaste
soap (I know you can make your own but not everyone wants to)
washing powder
cleaning fluids


Daily Bread, its at our end of town, and its great for nearly all of those. And best of all, when you empty out your cleaning fluid, you can take it back for a refill.

And our toothpaste normally comes from Boots.

The only one of those we get from the supermarket is toilet paper. Dunno why we've never bought that from Daily Bread. Will investimagate...


which of course does pose the question is buying from boots better than buying from the supermarkets or is that a debate for another time

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bagpuss wrote:

which of course does pose the question is buying from boots better than buying from the supermarkets or is that a debate for another time


Dunno. She's absolutely adamant about a particular brand of toothpaste that she's always used, and I know we can't get that in a shop like Daily Bread. So we get that from Boots. Is it more ethical than Tesco or Asda? I would say so, but as you say a matter for another discussion.

bagpuss



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Location: cambridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

what about branded items like Ribena

gil
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bagpuss wrote:
what about branded items like Ribena


in what sense ? whether not to buy them ? Or just not to buy them at a supermarket ?

I've been using the supermarket more for things I don't grow or make myself, because it's easier, and there aren't alternatives locally : tea+coffee, sugar, baking ingredients, etc.

The last time I bulk-bought flour from a sustainable etc supplier, I never used all of it and had to bin it in the end. Wasteful.

I make my own soap; toothpaste, shampoo etc from Boots and various non-supermarket shops;

Last edited by gil on Wed Dec 22, 10 3:14 pm; edited 1 time in total

nats



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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Location: Swindon but not a Swindonian
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

paul1963 wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
Its probably the non food items which are more difficult than the food items

So what about

toilet paper
toothpaste
soap (I know you can make your own but not everyone wants to)
washing powder
cleaning fluids


Madame Paul's hair dye, sanitary products, elmlea, booze.




Hair dye I can't help with, but a moon cup, real cream, and wine merchants?! Mind you having said that we'd go broke if we bought beer and cider from wine merchants....

bagpuss



Joined: 09 Dec 2004
Posts: 10507
Location: cambridge
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gil wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
what about branded items like Ribena


in what sense ? whether not to buy them ? Or just not to buy them at a supermarket ?


where to buy them which is not a supermarket or are there some things that we have to accept that we buy for supermarkets as I severly doubt my ability to wean my husband off Ribena

shopgirlsue



Joined: 26 Jul 2006
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Location: Nr Shaftesbury
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Every so often I attempt a supermarket free shop but I struggle with :-
small quantity of organic meat - I dont have a big freezer so can't buy half a sheep all I want each week is a couple of chicken fillets and some mince/sausages
fresh fish - again small quantities are a problem to get online
good quality fresh veg
Fairtrade tea/coffee
tinned pulses in water
wholegrain pasta/flour/rice

The other problem I have is access. The nearest farm shop (which is expensive and not very good) is further than my normal supermarket - Waitrose, the nearest health food shop is the same distance and doesn't do food

bagpuss



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Do you have a local butcher?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

nats wrote:
paul1963 wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
Its probably the non food items which are more difficult than the food items

So what about

toilet paper
toothpaste
soap (I know you can make your own but not everyone wants to)
washing powder
cleaning fluids


Madame Paul's hair dye, sanitary products, elmlea, booze.




Hair dye I can't help with, but a moon cup, real cream, and wine merchants?! Mind you having said that we'd go broke if we bought beer and cider from wine merchants....


No, you'd just consume less or brew your own, we only (generally) drink so much because we can afford it, as it's not essential, so cutting down and making it into a treat really improves the value you get from it, I find.

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There are other brands of blackcurrant cordial.

And you can, I believe, get ribena from some of the ethnic shops down on Mill Road (I think I saw it in Al Amin, an excellent independent grocer).

frewen



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Posts: 11405

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 10 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

When I feel a bit better I'll jot a bit down about food groups - although I'm not running one at the moment...

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