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Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 9:26 pm    Post subject: Crayfish Reply with quote
    

I gather our native UK crayfish are endangered and shouldn't be cought and eaten (either it's illegal or you need a licence).

However, there are the US signal crayfish that people say should be removed from our waters and many people trap an eat them.

Do you also need a licence to trap the signals? How do you prevent catching the native ones? Is there any simple government guidelines?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Crayfish Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Is there any simple government guidelines?


Is that not a contradiction in terms?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Crayfish Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
Treacodactyl wrote:
Is there any simple government guidelines?


Is that not a contradiction in terms?


There are so many people who know a bit about them I thought I'd ask if anyone knew a good link. Doesn't have to be the government, sometimes they have some good details, sometimes you spend ages searching for the most obvious detail.

Marigold123



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Crayfish Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
How do you prevent catching the native ones?
Could you just let the native ones go again?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My local cluster of postcodes is exempt from the requirement to have a license to "keep" signals - ie there's an all too well established feral population.
So if I were to come across any, I could take them home and eat them after a couple of days self-purging.
But, it seems that I mustn't try to trap them, although DEFRA etc want them removed, 'cos there's only a facility for issuing such licenses in the Thames region. A trap
So that leaves "fishing"...

At least that's my understanding despite/from following the various recent discussions on River Cottage...
There were several links, including to photos of the Native and the Signal.

I'd like to find that I've got it all wrong - please convince me!


Licenses to "keep" and exemptions https://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/regulat/forms/fish/cray2.pdf
Generally, you don't need a license to "keep" for "immediate human consumption", but they usefully list postcodes with Signals...
Ref to prohibitions on "Fixed Engines" https://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/subjects/fish/246986/257916/261125/261227/?lang=_e

sean
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think there are f***-all natives left,IIRC. I'm sure there's an on-line population map somewhere, I'll have a look tomorrow.

pricey



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 05 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

https://www.searchnbn.net/gridMap/gridMap.jsp?allDs=1&srchSpKey=NHMSYS0000518124 HOPE this works don't realy know what im doing, sory if it don't.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 05 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

So as my postcode is listed, I'm allowed to catch crayfish (say, with a crab bait bag) as long as I don't trap them?

Why is life so complicated?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 05 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is the reason you cannot trap in case you trap native ones?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 05 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i think the reason is that you mite transfare the parasite that the amrican carries, as this is what´s killing the native cray fish

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