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Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 12 6:26 pm    Post subject: Glycerol Reply with quote
    

Being a by-product of biodiesel production, mucky glycerol is rapidly becoming one of the most overabundent commodities in the known world (or at least my back yard).
There are lots of things you can do with good glycerol, but this stuff is too mucky even to burn effectively: the soap gums up the burner.
So I'm thinking I need to refine it, and I'm thinking of setting up a still, but I thought I'd ask here, see if anyone has any cunning ideas...

RichardW



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 12 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Make soap?

Or sell it HERE but its only worth £20 per tonne.


Here are some suggestions

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Glycerol is used for a variety of purposes across many different industries. The following is a list of current uses of glycerol:

Food – glycerol is used as an artificial sweetener, especially in low-fat foods, since it is better for blood pressure than sugar. It is also used as a thickening agent and an ester in shortenings and margarine. It also can be used as a substitute ingredient in animal feed.

Basic Materials – Glycerol be used as a substitute for petroleum-based polypropelene, a textile, and in both rigid and flexible industrial foams. It is also used as a building block for many different kinds of industrial chemicals.

Pharmaceuticals – Used as an additive in cough syrup, toothpaste, skin care, hair care soap and many others.

Explosives – The compound nitroglycerin, made with glycerol, is commonly used in all types of explosives.

Other – Used as an ingredient in antifreeze, hydraulic fluids, plasticizers

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 12 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

RichardW wrote:
Make soap?

Not sure I can use that much soap...

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Or sell it HERE but its only worth £20 per tonne.

Ooh, it's gone up. Was only £15 when I asked.

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Here are some suggestions

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Glycerol is used for a variety of purposes across many different industries. The following is a list of current uses of glycerol:

All need it to be clean... But thanks for the input.

RichardW



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 12 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you clean it cant it be reused in the process?

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 12 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

RichardW wrote:
If you clean it cant it be reused in the process?

No, it is a waste product of the process.
But one of the main contaminants is methanol left over from the reaction. If we can separate that, it can be re-used... is nasty stuff though.

Colin & Jan



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 12 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Someone I know takes it all to the local tip and pours it in the waste vegetable oil collection bin, working on the basis that the larger bio-diesel producers are able deal with it better than he can.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 12 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Colin & Jan wrote:
Someone I know takes it all to the local tip and pours it in the waste vegetable oil collection bin, working on the basis that the larger bio-diesel producers are able deal with it better than he can.

Yes. Getting rid of it is not actually a major problem, it just seems to me rather wasteful.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've been doing some rummaging on t'net, and apparently it can be used in chicken feed...

I've also been looking at a process to get hydrogen from it, but I am not sure what I would do with hydrogen if I did... I know it is the fuel of the future, but nothing I've got will run on it.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Glycerol -> chicken -> guano -> methane

Chicken -> nom -> composting toilet -> methane

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
Glycerol -> chicken -> guano -> methane

Chicken -> nom -> composting toilet -> methane

Methanogenesis is another game I want to look into, but I don't use that much of it, so it would still leave me a problem.

I could try pumping it into my cooker point and see if the meter goes backwards...

vegplot



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Can I watch?

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
Can I watch?

Of course.
Won't be for a while yet though...

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
Can I watch?


Save your bus fare. It'll be on the news.

vegplot



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Have camera and internet connection.

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 12 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
vegplot wrote:
Can I watch?


Save your bus fare. It'll be on the news.

Ye of little faith.

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