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gardening-girl



Joined: 25 Feb 2009
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Location: Somerset.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 12 8:40 am    Post subject: Green manure Question. Reply with quote
    

There seem to be lots of different varieties,but which one to use.We have used Rye grass before,but found it hard to dig in.
We want to use it in our raised beds over the winter.
Ther is also one that has a natural pesticide in,has anyone used it?

Tania



Joined: 07 Nov 2012
Posts: 95
Location: Dorset
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I am using green manure for the first time this year - field beans - as it says it is good for heavy soil and mine is clay - all seem to be coming up ok.

I think on the back of the packets they tell you which type is best for what soil you have.
You could look on this site - if you click on the left hand side on each of the different types will tell you what to use them for and the soil type it is good for.

https://greenmanure.co.uk/

Lets us know what you end up using and if it works!

yummersetter



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Posts: 3241
Location: Somerset
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rye is a blooming nuisance, last autumn's sowing has regrown this year and now I can't tell where the beds are amongst the grass paths. The ground's too wet and claggy to dig it in, too. I'll probably smother it to death with cardboard this winter.

NorthernMonkeyGirl



Joined: 10 Apr 2011
Posts: 4584
Location: Peeping over your shoulder
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yeah I now have to worry about how to kill the rye in my fruit-bush area

I've got phacelia on another patch, has grown well, it's "crispy" so should dig in easily, but I don't think it's a nitrogen fixer.

Went



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 6968

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We use oats - green manure of choice around here and it digs in easily, doesn't re-grow and breaks down quickly - and it's cheap.

roobarb



Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Posts: 139
Location: Carmarthenshire
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've just sown some Caliente Mustard 119 (https://www.greenmanure.co.uk/caliente_mustard.htm) in the polytunnel, as I read this can be a natural way of fumigating the soil (I have been wondering how to keep the soil "clean" in the PT, so thought this may be an easy answer as well as adding nutrients to the soil.) When you chop up the mustard and cover it, the gases act as fumigant. When researching it I also read that RHS Wisley has been using it on some of the trial beds.

I may be a bit late in sowing it, but I figured that in the polytunnel it is still relatively warm, so should germinate.

Tania



Joined: 07 Nov 2012
Posts: 95
Location: Dorset
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

roobarb wrote:
I've just sown some Caliente Mustard 119 (https://www.greenmanure.co.uk/caliente_mustard.htm) in the polytunnel, as I read this can be a natural way of fumigating the soil (I have been wondering how to keep the soil "clean" in the PT, so thought this may be an easy answer as well as adding nutrients to the soil.) When you chop up the mustard and cover it, the gases act as fumigant. When researching it I also read that RHS Wisley has been using it on some of the trial beds.

I may be a bit late in sowing it, but I figured that in the polytunnel it is still relatively warm, so should germinate.


Let me know how it goes and if it works - have a green house which I will be using next year - so this might be good!

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 45377
Location: yes
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

mustards are good for weed suppression

barley is good for humus

beans are good for nitrogen capture

etc

pends what is needed

in summer coriander is fast and very covering

Tavascarow



Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 8407
Location: South Cornwall
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've struggled to get good germination from mustard & clover.
Had the same problem as others with Italian rye although pigs like to turn it in.
Lately I haven't bothered & just used a bastard fallow to get more organics into the soil.

Mithril



Joined: 22 Jul 2011
Posts: 1755
Location: wessex
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 12 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I used mustard and it worked really well, in terms of keeping weeds down.

robkb



Joined: 29 May 2009
Posts: 4205
Location: SE London
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 12 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I use rye grass. Yes it's a devil to chop down and dig in, but it does wonders for my clay soil.

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