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cab



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 1:37 pm    Post subject: Herb and Flower Wines Reply with quote
    

I just bashed out the first half of an article on herb and flower wines. It now needs some recipes added, I thought I'd incude recipes for, say, half a dozen or so different wines.

Any requests?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Do you have any that only require flowers? I'm often disappointed with recipes that take a few flowers or fruit and add two lemons, two oranges and a few pounds of sultanas.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Here is a daft question on elderflower wine, if I grab the flowers am I effecting the elderberry crop?

Sarah D



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, the crop is affected; each flower has the potential to becmoe a berry, so a tree must never be stripped of flowers, or there will be no berries for the birds or the wine making.

The reason dried fruit is added to herb and flower wines is to add body to the wine;: it would be very thin and lacking without it, also the citrus fruit. Not worth making without the additions, I think.

cab



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
Here is a daft question on elderflower wine, if I grab the flowers am I effecting the elderberry crop?


Kind of. It's like pruning out the ends of gooseberry shoots like many people do, you've got less fruit but you're aiming at an earlier and better crop. For most of us the elder is so plentiful that it doesn't matter.

cab



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Do you have any that only require flowers? I'm often disappointed with recipes that take a few flowers or fruit and add two lemons, two oranges and a few pounds of sultanas.


You can make a flower or herb wine without extra fruit but you might be lacking in body. I'll include a trick for getting around that. As for citrus, you do need to get a bit of acid in; lemon juice or citric acid is pretty damned useful.

jema
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
jema wrote:
Here is a daft question on elderflower wine, if I grab the flowers am I effecting the elderberry crop?


Kind of. It's like pruning out the ends of gooseberry shoots like many people do, you've got less fruit but you're aiming at an earlier and better crop. For most of us the elder is so plentiful that it doesn't matter.


It is pretty plentiful here, but I think I'd rather keep it that way ....

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Just off to pick some gorse flowers, was going to use Berrys recipie
unless you know of a better one ?
Dave

cab



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Blacksmith wrote:
Just off to pick some gorse flowers, was going to use Berrys recipie
unless you know of a better one ?
Dave


No, Berrys recipe is a good one for gorse. In fact I don't think I've been unsatisfied with any recipe in his classic book.

cab



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:

It is pretty plentiful here, but I think I'd rather keep it that way ....


Elder is a weed. In most places you no more need to worry about affecting its numbers than you have to worry about picking dandelions. I pull up elder seedlings a dozen times a year in my garden, and the neares elder tree is fifty yards away!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
jema wrote:

It is pretty plentiful here, but I think I'd rather keep it that way ....


Elder is a weed. In most places you no more need to worry about affecting its numbers than you have to worry about picking dandelions. I pull up elder seedlings a dozen times a year in my garden, and the neares elder tree is fifty yards away!


I was referring more to keeping the berries plentiful

moggins



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You just can't kill elder off, every year I have to cut down the one that grows right in front of my back gate and the one that is growing through my lean to wall is very annoying but quite pretty

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

On this subject does anyone know exactly how much a quart is? As in take a quart of flowers......

Sarah D



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

A quart of flwoers or leaves is a two pint jug filled so that, lightly pressed, the level of the flowers or leaves or whatever reaches the quart/two pint mark.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 05 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
Blacksmith wrote:
Just off to pick some gorse flowers, was going to use Berrys recipie
unless you know of a better one ?
Dave


No, Berrys recipe is a good one for gorse. In fact I don't think I've been unsatisfied with any recipe in his classic book.


Berrys? I beg'pardon, wossat?

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