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derbyshiredowser



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Location: derbyshire
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 18 9:57 am    Post subject: Pollution & Lichen. Reply with quote
    

There was a recent study into the most polluted roads in Derby regarding air quality. The most polluted road is the section of A38 that passes to the north of Derby and has three roundabouts on it that stop and start the traffic with traffic lights leaving standing vehicles with there resultant emissions. At the side of one section is Markeaton Park one of Derbys top parks, traditional parkland and lake with a large number of old trees. Whilst walking the dogs I have noticed a lot of green lichens growing on the trees as close as 200 mtrs from the A38 and just wondered if generally the pollution goes up into the atmosphere and does not affect the adjacent areas , or is the growth of lichen not a reliable indicator of air quality or have I missed something. It will be interesting as there a presently plans to dig tunnels under the islands so there will be no standing traffic by 2022.

buzzy



Joined: 04 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 18 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Different lichens react in various ways to different pollutants. It isn't just as simple as "Pollution = no lichens" I'm afraid. I will try and find better information during the day and post it unless somebody beats me to it.

Henry

Slim



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 18 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I guess my question would be which pollutants are you thinking of?

Some of them may actually benefit the lichens to some extent.

derbyshiredowser



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 18 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

This was the figure given by the council but there must be more complex gas mixes unless they only measure the nitrogen dioxide levels

Kingsway 60.0 - micrograms of nitrogen dioxide per cubic metre of air

buzzy



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 18 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes. Some lichens are nitrophilic and respond well to nitrogen pollution, whilst others are nitrophobic and decline in areas of high nitrogen compounds.

Nitrogen compounds would, I think, be the main pollutants close to roads. It would be good to have the lichens you see identified to find if they are, indeed, nitrophiles.

Acid rain, from (mainly) sulphur dioxide was the main cause of large lichen declines, but with the reduction in the use of coal, and with other measures to reduce sulphur emissions, a lot of lichens are recovering their former distributions.

Henry

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 18 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's what I understood too Henry. I think you are right about sulphur dioxide being the main cause of lichen death. That has decreased overall, and even vehicles produce less than they did with low sulphur fuels. I don't know about the nitrophiles and nitrophobes, but think most work on lichens has been done on the effect of sulphur dioxide.

derbyshiredowser



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 18 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Snow has now gone so finally managed to get some samples of the large amount of lichen on the park
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Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 18 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There is certainly a lot there. I can't identify it, but looks quite familiar so don't think it is one of the rarer ones.

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