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DavidW



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:08 am    Post subject: Transplanting Grape Vines Reply with quote
    

I purchased tree vines last autumn, all of which have been kept in my greenhouse over the winter. The plants are presently approx 8" high, my questions are: -

1. When can I transplant them onto my allotment?
2. When I plant them, do I need to prune
3. If so how much.

Thanks
David

Bugs



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Like most things, we have a book on this, which if nobody else comes up today I'll look at for you tonight.

We've got four or five vines plus a few cuttings from those, and we're growing three vines in builders' buckets in the ground so they can easily be moved if we want to. They fruited rather well last year until our "friend" ( ) Mr Fox nabbed most of them.

I can't remember what time of year we planted our vines in the ground, but think they were bare root. I should imagine it's pretty similar to most fruit, ie now til late winter, when it's not too frosty.

Hopefully there'll be someone along later who knows what they're talking about

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Can't help you either, my first grape vine is sitting in the greenhouse awaiting planting, so we're all in it together

Tristan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

March is the best time of year to plant your grape vines, don't add a lot of compost to the planting hole but mulch them with a layer 3-4" deep of well rotted manure or garden compost. Cut the main stem back at the end of next season to two feet and any side shoots back to one bud. If you let me know what varieties they are I can tell you the best training methods for them.

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tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mine's called Suffolk (American I believe)

sean
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If it's ungrafted then it's almost certainly American. Come to think of it if you consider that Phylloxera was introduced to Europe via England it's not surprising that the French don't like us much.

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

sean wrote:
If it's ungrafted then it's almost certainly American.


Haven't checked, I bought it cos it was called Suffolk and I assumed it was East Anglian, I didn't research it till afterwards when all the references I could find were to an American variety called Suffolk Red

Tristan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Early red seedless grape. I would suggest growing it in a greenhouse, either with the roots planted outside and the stem brought back in thro' a cut down pane, or in a bucket sized pot, moving up to a half barrel later. For training the cordon system is probably your best bet.

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I was going to grow it as a cordon against a south facing wall

Tristan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That should work, especially if you can rig up a polythene curtain to protect from frost if the buds break early and possibly to help ripen the fruit in a poor summer

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think I'll plant our three grape vines out of their buckets this year as the vines seemed too restricted in them. I think they had problems getting water, even though I watered them a fair bit. As the ground is chalky they shouldn't go mad. Not sure how to keep the fox off of them though.

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We don't get much serious frost, but that's a good point about ripening the fruit.

Tristan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sounds disgusting, but peeing around the boundaries often works as foxes don't like the smell (plastic bottle useful if you've got neighbours)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tristan, the type i purchased was BACO 1

David

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 05 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is that the cultivar name?

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