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Nick



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 06 3:45 pm    Post subject: You guys are teh Smarteys. Reply with quote
    

So, please explain this to me.

Sainsbury's have SO Organic potatoes in stock. I understand what this means. However, they are in plastic bags, marked Non-GM packaging.

HUH?

Is any packaging GM? I'm assuming it's Genetically Modified, but if so, I'm a bit lost. I suppose I could ask Sainsbury's, but I could also rub my face against a cheesegrater. It'll be as fruitful and fun, I imagine.

Please help, as I am confused.

(I bought non-organic ones, as they were made locally, rather than the Israeli organic ones. Please don't hate me too much.)

sean
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 06 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Don't they make plastics out of soya?

Nick



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 06 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Dunno. That'd explain it, I guess.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 06 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I beleive they can make bidegradable 'plastic' out of cornstarch or something, although I'd be surprised (and quite impressed) if sainsbury's have bothered.

Bernie66



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 06 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wellington womble wrote:
I beleive they can make bidegradable 'plastic' out of cornstarch or something, although I'd be surprised (and quite impressed) if sainsbury's have bothered.


Haven't we been discussing on here the fact that Tesco's are going to start having biodegradable carrier bags. I know the coop have had them for years. Its probably something along the same lines I would imagine.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 06 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wellington womble wrote:
I beleive they can make bidegradable 'plastic' out of cornstarch or something, although I'd be surprised (and quite impressed) if sainsbury's have bothered.


Yes, they do, in fact for reasons which escape me at the moment but which I am sure are quite fascinating, I was looking up cornstarch packaging the other day and I think that it was quite often produced from the US or something and therefore more likely to be GM so a whole hoohaa on whether that was good, better, worse, etc etc than good old plastic (I miss brown paper bags).

Anyway, in a departure from tradition, I might have found the answer to Nick's question (well, one of them, I daresay he is riddled with questions)

https://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/research/news/story.php?id=566

dougal



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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 06 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bugs wrote:
... Anyway, in a departure from tradition, I might have found the answer to Nick's question ...

Well done (again) that girl!

Strange isn't it, that US supermarkets have been using recycled-paper bags for yonks - and the British shopper really doesn't seem to want them...

Andy B



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 06 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dougal wrote:
Bugs wrote:
... Anyway, in a departure from tradition, I might have found the answer to Nick's question ...

Well done (again) that girl!

Strange isn't it, that US supermarkets have been using recycled-paper bags for yonks - and the British shopper really doesn't seem to want them...


Thats because their bags are not very good, everytime you watch an american film with a scene in a supermarket car park someone always gets knocked over and the bag rips spilling grub all over the floor. Wouldnt happen with a Tesco carrier bag.

dougal



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 06 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Andy B wrote:
... everytime you watch an american film with a scene in a supermarket car park someone always gets knocked over and the bag rips spilling grub all over the floor. Wouldnt happen with a Tesco carrier bag.

Or, to be fair, a Tesco car park... they don't even have handgun counters...

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 06 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: You guys are teh Smarteys. Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:

(I bought non-organic ones, as they were made locally, rather than the Israeli organic ones.


That's generally assumed by most people who stop and think, to be the best option.

Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 06 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: You guys are teh Smarteys. Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:
(I bought non-organic ones, as they were made locally, rather than the Israeli organic ones. Please don't hate me too much.)


I don't hate you Nick (although I may live to regret that comment some day...). Given the choice we would always buy 'ordinary' over organic if the ordinary came from within the UK and the organic from halfway across the world. There are only a few organic items I ever buy I'm afraid. My order of importance (other than seasonal/fresh/free range) is:
1) Local
2) Within West Wales
3) Within Wales
4) Within UK
5) Within immediate Europe - France, Spain, Italy
6) Rarely get this far...but if so (e.g. bananas, coffee etc) Fair Trade
7) Do without

If anything happens to be organic too, then it's an added bonus - but not a necessity in our household.

Andy B



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 06 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: You guys are teh Smarteys. Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:
nickhowe wrote:
(I bought non-organic ones, as they were made locally, rather than the Israeli organic ones. Please don't hate me too much.)


I don't hate you Nick (although I may live to regret that comment some day...). Given the choice we would always buy 'ordinary' over organic if the ordinary came from within the UK and the organic from halfway across the world. There are only a few organic items I ever buy I'm afraid. My order of importance (other than seasonal/fresh/free range) is:
1) Local
2) Within West Wales
3) Within Wales
4) Within UK
5) Within immediate Europe - France, Spain, Italy
6) Rarely get this far...but if so (e.g. bananas, coffee etc) Fair Trade
7) Do without

If anything happens to be organic too, then it's an added bonus - but not a necessity in our household.


By the time i had worked my way through your list i would have forgotten what i was buying. I bought some carrots grown in nottingham from sainsburies and they had started to go rotten after 2 days, how crap is that

cab



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 06 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: You guys are teh Smarteys. Reply with quote
    

Andy B wrote:

By the time i had worked my way through your list i would have forgotten what i was buying. I bought some carrots grown in nottingham from sainsburies and they had started to go rotten after 2 days, how crap is that


I see your problem. Carrots from Nottingham to Birmingham via whatever distribution centre used by Sainsburys and probably long storage along the way, then being left wrapped in plastic or in plastic lined boxes for days.

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 06 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: You guys are teh Smarteys. Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:
My order of importance (other than seasonal/fresh/free range) is:
1) Local
2) Within West Wales
3) Within Wales
4) Within UK
5) Within immediate Europe - France, Spain, Italy
6) Rarely get this far...but if so (e.g. bananas, coffee etc) Fair Trade
7) Do without

If anything happens to be organic too, then it's an added bonus - but not a necessity in our household.


That's how I shop too - except of course the Wales bit It's not difficult to do, just takes a little thought.

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