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lettucewoman



Joined: 26 Sep 2006
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Location: Tiptoe in the Forest!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 07 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

students i mean - not sheep!!

MarkS



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 07 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

lettucewoman wrote:
goats? sheep ?

if you employ them on a casual basis you are not liable for anything - they are.


Ohhhh! Not true.

The situation as described is not casual work in the sense of being exempt from the paye requirements. The position described is clearly employment.

"Casual work" means one off employment. ie one day with no commitment beyond that.

There used to be an exemption for "Harvest Workers" where the total employment is less than two weeks - dont know if that still applies.

The Tax & NI system has clamped down on casual/temp workers - PAYE should be operated in almost all cases. The employer is liable for unpaid tax &ni. This is why most IT contractors set up ltd companies, that makes employment a business arrangement rather than employment.

The HMCRE will be round to see you later.

Windymiller



Joined: 02 Apr 2006
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Location: West Wales
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 07 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you are still looking for a grass-cutting assistant, I can send my son around. He is 22, strong, has own transport, is looking for work before college starts again, and he lives a mere few miles away from you.

Mary-Jane



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
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Location: The Fishing Strumpet is from Ceredigion in West Wales
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 07 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Windymiller wrote:
If you are still looking for a grass-cutting assistant, I can send my son around. He is 22, strong, has own transport, is looking for work before college starts again, and he lives a mere few miles away from you.


Hi WM...that sounds great. Could you PM me your phone number please? I know we've prolly got it somewhere amongst our mountain of paperwork, but I can't find it. What's his name? What's he studying at the moment (not that that has any bearing at all...)

Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 07 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Windymiller wrote:
If you are still looking for a grass-cutting assistant, I can send my son around. He is 22, strong, has own transport, is looking for work before college starts again, and he lives a mere few miles away from you.


Well, Windymiller Junior (Gervase has suggested we call him Breezy) has started working for me and turned out to be an absolute trooper! He set to on my list of jobs with enthusiasm and gusto and is coming back again for a couple of days this week - so I can't be that dreadful to work for

And I am smiling again...

Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 07 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:
Well, Windymiller Junior (Gervase has suggested we call him Breezy) has started working for me and turned out to be an absolute trooper!


Gusty would be better - if he's a big strong lad, Breezy doesn't seem to fit

Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 07 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Penny wrote:
Mary-Jane wrote:
Well, Windymiller Junior (Gervase has suggested we call him Breezy) has started working for me and turned out to be an absolute trooper!


Gusty would be better - if he's a big strong lad, Breezy doesn't seem to fit


Yup - I like that!

oldish chris



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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Location: Comfortably Wet Southport
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 07 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
It occurs to me that if cutting the grass takes four hours, you've got too much grass. Get pigs.


Cab's thought process is getting there. As far as I am aware, it is a universal fact that people who do gardens (1) know absolutely nothing about gardening and (2) are always unreliable. M.J., your suggestion of employing someone isn't a solution, it is an additional problem. The grass would continue to grow, the person would either make it look worse or not turn up.

(IMHO) a bottle of Shiraz and a long cogitate are called for. Then redisign that part of the garden for low maintenance, e.g. chicken ark, wildlife garden, concrete.

oldish chris



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 07 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Oh yeah, forgot, if its not part of the farm, pedigree, rarebreed pet pigs.

Mary-Jane



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Location: The Fishing Strumpet is from Ceredigion in West Wales
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 07 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

oldish chris wrote:
cab wrote:
It occurs to me that if cutting the grass takes four hours, you've got too much grass. Get pigs.


Cab's thought process is getting there. As far as I am aware, it is a universal fact that people who do gardens (1) know absolutely nothing about gardening and (2) are always unreliable. M.J., your suggestion of employing someone isn't a solution, it is an additional problem. The grass would continue to grow, the person would either make it look worse or not turn up.

(IMHO) a bottle of Shiraz and a long cogitate are called for. Then redisign that part of the garden for low maintenance, e.g. chicken ark, wildlife garden, concrete.


Well gosh, thanks for that OC. According to your (no doubt impeccable) reasoning, a) I know nothing about gardening; b) the very nice young man who is working for me is utterly unreliable and is going to ruin my garden; c) I have made additional problems for myself; d) I urgently need to completely re-design my garden by filling it with concrete.

And you managed to come up with solutions from your armchair, never having seen our garden, not knowing what we have achieved so far and not being aware of any of our plans?

That's truly amazing. I prostrate myself at your feet...

lettucewoman



Joined: 26 Sep 2006
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Location: Tiptoe in the Forest!!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 07 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

just found this on the web.....it wasn't you was it MJ????


At least one man or woman needed to do some casual work in grounds of farmhouse in area of outstanding natural beauty 30 mins from Charing Cross station...clearing brambles from shrubberies, emptying hay barn, gardening depending on skill level....board and lodging included and to die for on their own, even before getting paid! Maybe some farm work too, repairs, spraying, if you're getting on well. Perhaps a spot of painting if it happened to rain. A good old tidy up. How many days? i dunno, maybe 3 or 4 person days. The more useful you are the more jobs I'll find. Its a cool place to be. I reckon if you get collected from station, put up in a listed 1585 house and fed plenty of rare breed meat and real eggs, then a traveller could do a good days work for £40. Bring your boyfriend or walk up to the safa pub and try to score there. I just want some people who aren't a nuisance and sort out those things I never do.

hedgewitch



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Location: Daft wench GHQ
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 07 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:
Well gosh, thanks for that OC. According to your (no doubt impeccable) reasoning, a) I know nothing about gardening; b) the very nice young man who is working for me is utterly unreliable and is going to ruin my garden; c) I have made additional problems for myself; d) I urgently need to completely re-design my garden by filling it with concrete.

And you managed to come up with solutions from your armchair, never having seen our garden, not knowing what we have achieved so far and not being aware of any of our plans?

That's truly amazing. I prostrate myself at your feet...


Mornin' M-J

mochyn



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 07 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

oldish chris wrote:
cab wrote:
It occurs to me that if cutting the grass takes four hours, you've got too much grass. Get pigs.


Cab's thought process is getting there. As far as I am aware, it is a universal fact that people who do gardens (1) know absolutely nothing about gardening and (2) are always unreliable. M.J., your suggestion of employing someone isn't a solution, it is an additional problem. The grass would continue to grow, the person would either make it look worse or not turn up.

(IMHO) a bottle of Shiraz and a long cogitate are called for. Then redisign that part of the garden for low maintenance, e.g. chicken ark, wildlife garden, concrete.


May I just say that, speaking as a recently retired PROFESSIONAL gardener/designer, that's a lot of cr*p, Chris?

cab



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 07 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:

That's truly amazing. I prostrate myself at your feet...


Thats her told then. Well done Chris

The wildlife garden sounds fun though, don't you think? Sounds like you have loads of room, is that a possibility (might be more fun for the lad too, and might leave you with less maintenance in the long run).

hedgewitch



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 07 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
Mary-Jane wrote:

That's truly amazing. I prostrate myself at your feet...


Thats her told then. Well done Chris

The wildlife garden sounds fun though, don't you think? Sounds like you have loads of room, is that a possibility (might be more fun for the lad too, and might leave you with less maintenance in the long run).


Having re-read the title of the thread, you're a very brave man, Cab.

But I like the idea of a wildlife garden too....

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