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Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 18 6:08 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote    

I have grown the 'Wight' garlic in the past, which worked quite well, but we are in the south of England within sight of the Isle of Wight.

sgt.colon



Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 6147
Location: Just south of north.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 18 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thanks you two.

On the back of that, am I okay to grow onions and garlic together?

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 18 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Well I have grown them in the same bed, but not sure if that is the correct thing to do. We have very light soil, so find I need to put plenty of compost into the soil to retain moisture.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 18 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

different spacing but both need similar soil/ water/sunshine etc, both prone to similar pests n illnesses.
same bed same time is ok.

different bed next season.

iirc the use of a hoe is important and row spacing is as much about having room to work without chopping your crop as it is about space for the green bits to gather sunlight in.

thinking of hoes , try borrowing a few types off the other allotmenteers to find a style that works for you and the sort of planting you do.

ps hoes are a cutting tool so do remember to keep it sharp

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 18 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I find various thing are inclined to ruin my careful spacing unfortunately. The worst was when we had a vixen reared some cubs in the buddliea bed and the little dears played football with the sets. I always grow from sets btw.

sgt.colon



Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 18 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thank you guys.

MR, you should maybe see if you can interest the Match of the day people. I'd watch that.

Well my beds are 4' wide so I was thinking onion sets on the outside of the beds with a row of garlic running down the middle. I hope that makes sense?

Slim



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 18 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

As much sense as anything.

buzzy



Joined: 04 Jan 2011
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Location: In a small wood on the edge of the Huntingdonshire Wolds
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 18 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Since the onions will be larger/taller (presumably) than the garlic wouldn't it be better to have them in the centre and the garlic outside?


Henry

Slim



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 18 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I would be surprised to see onions larger than garlic.

Garlic tends to shoot up out of the ground a bit faster than onions, so should reach height first as well.

Then again, I'm speaking from a different perspective than perhaps UK growers.

Here the norm is to plant garlic in mid-October and harvest in July/August, and to plant onion starts in April/May and harvest in August

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 18 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I am over wintering both the garlic and the onions but I was going with garlic down the middle as I have more onions than I do garlic.

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 18 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It is up to you. I tend to plant garlic one end of the bed and fill the rest with onions.

gz



Joined: 23 Jan 2009
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Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 18 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A better plan MR, as they get lifted at different times

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

One day I'll have a veg plot again. God I miss home grown leeks, garlic and onions. I alway grew onions and shallots from seed, plant in pots indoors boxing dayish. Always much better than sets for me. Long Red Florence onions and Cuisse de Poulet shallots...

sgt.colon



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Location: Just south of north.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I'll go with your suggestion MR, thanks.

So one last question. Garlic seems quite expensive for a bulb or two, so am I able to save a couple of home grown ones next year to replant more garlic? Or does quality reduce that way?

Thanks.

sgt.colon



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Location: Just south of north.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 18 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
One day I'll have a veg plot again.


Do you not have the room or the time these day's Tahir?

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