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Jonnyboy



Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: under some rain.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 08 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Half a fish and net damage could have been down to a seal.

Could you just start making up some successful stories so we don't get depressed?

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 08 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nah dont think its a seal (but they are in the area) the damaged fish was not baddly chomped & the net was rolled up / riped away from the end ropes.

Better people know the realities of doing for themselves with no experiance paying maximum "fools tax" along the way.
Just like smallholding realy.

Things can only get better if they start badly.

Had more dog for tea with a lemon butter sauce yum yum.
(wonder if that will come up on a search for eating canines? lol)


RichardW

crofter



Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 2252

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 08 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Even though the net is ripped, it will still fish if you can sort out the tangles. If you have more patience than I do you can repair it again and again - or at least until it pays for itself!

RichardW



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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 08 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well i am now a fully licenced Lobster, crab, prawn & whelk potter.

Licenced just arrived in the post.

All I need now is some pots

RichardW

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 08 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Whelk pots you can make yourself.

Considering it's home consumption, a couple of parlour pots should be sufficient for crab and lobster.

RichardW



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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 08 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jonnyboy wrote:
Whelk pots you can make yourself.

Considering it's home consumption, a couple of parlour pots should be sufficient for crab and lobster.


Yeh I have seen the local ones on the harbour wall. 25L plastic barrels with holes in & a weight. Been keeping my eye out for some parlour type pots but to be honest any that come along at the right price will do. Most are either new (and cosltly with the delivery) or so baddly damaged they are only good for decoration in garden themes.

RichardW

IanNW



Joined: 21 Jun 2008
Posts: 75
Location: Flintshire, North Wales/India
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 08 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

you thought of trying to fashion some yourself, it would appear you are handy at that king of thing from previous posts on the forum. Some metal grills and the damaged net you have to try with?

RichardW



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 08 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

IanNW wrote:
you thought of trying to fashion some yourself, it would appear you are handy at that king of thing from previous posts on the forum. Some metal grills and the damaged net you have to try with?


Yeh have considered it. The net I have is to far far weak to hold a crab. If some of the right sort of net comes along I prob will. Was thinking along the lines of a wooden base with blue water pipe for the frame & strong netting.

RichardW

IanNW



Joined: 21 Jun 2008
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Location: Flintshire, North Wales/India
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 08 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Have a look on Ebay, there is some similiar to the ones you described.

Wooden base with Blue plastic piping and 50mm netting attached.

RichardW



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 08 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

IanNW wrote:
Have a look on Ebay, there is some similiar to the ones you described.

Wooden base with Blue plastic piping and 50mm netting attached.


Thats where I got the idea lol.

RichardW

fisheagle



Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 08 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

RichardW wrote:
IanNW wrote:
you thought of trying to fashion some yourself, it would appear you are handy at that king of thing from previous posts on the forum. Some metal grills and the damaged net you have to try with?


Yeh have considered it. The net I have is to far far weak to hold a crab. If some of the right sort of net comes along I prob will. Was thinking along the lines of a wooden base with blue water pipe for the frame & strong netting.

RichardW


If ye can't make or mend then don't use it! Seems your like the bicycle owner who wants to try formula 1, looks good but you haven't much of a clue. Walk before you can run should be your watchword! Get a couple of years in using a handline, drink in the local fishermans pub and become friends with them..............they just might help if you can convince them your not trying to steal their livlihood which it seems to me you are!

And your cheap monofilament net will keep on fishing and killing things long after you've lost it! And lose it you will, sooner or later

RichardW



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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 08 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

fisheagle wrote:
they just might help if you can convince them your not trying to steal their livlihood which it seems to me you are!

And your cheap monofilament net will keep on fishing and killing things long after you've lost it! And lose it you will, sooner or later


How? I dont catch that much (I wish) & def dont sell any.

Also the nets long gone but not at sea. Twas rubbish so its been destroyed.

Richard

fisheagle



Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 08 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

In the first instance try talking to them.........go to the pub they use and get into conversation (like anybody else they'll talk to people) get to know them, don't rush, tell 'em you have a boat and ask for a few tips, how to look after it or something - you may be the boating worlds answer to Gordon Brown and know everything there is to know about boats - but unlike Gordon you don't have to brag about it, just quietly ask, and agree................then follow the lead

Glad to hear you've got rid of the momofilament properly, nasty things monofilament. Too damn comprehensive!!

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 08 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

fisheagle wrote:
In the first instance try talking to them.........go to the pub they use and get into conversation (like anybody else they'll talk to people) get to know them, don't rush, tell 'em you have a boat and ask for a few tips, how to look after it or something - you may be the boating worlds answer to Gordon Brown and know everything there is to know about boats - but unlike Gordon you don't have to brag about it, just quietly ask, and agree................then follow the lead

Glad to hear you've got rid of the momofilament properly, nasty things monofilament. Too damn comprehensive!!


but what has that got to do with me pinching their trade?

Richard

fisheagle



Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 08 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You're going after the same fish ain't ye? that in their eyes is tatramount to pinching their trade - you're not buying from them either are ye? that be if'n you are sucessful! Once upon a time it was no bother there was plwenty of fish in the sea........these days fish is a rare thing.

Oh by the way when ye get round to making yer own pots remember a plastic bucket with the bottom punched (cut) out of it makes a fine spout, if its a reasonable distance off the bottom the crab / partan won't get out of it - too stupid!! Mind you if you pick up regular by the time it's rested after eating the bait its in your pot, or on your plate!

Have you tried making your own nets, the amount to fill in a panel of a pot isn't all that big! There's a few books out there on netting shouldn't be to hard to find one! If not how familiar are you with the names of knots and the like? might have a go at teaching you at a distance.....could be interesting, if your willing to have a go that is!

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