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joanne



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 08 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Having looked myself - I think this is what Thornes call a Standard Uncapping Tray at the lovely cheap price of £212+VAT - Although I suspect if you are going to have lots of OSR honey it might be worth investing

I found this bit of info from here https://www.beedata.com/data2/basic_honey_processing.htm which might help

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Possibly the beekeeper has been caught out by oil seed rape, and has combs of solid honey. Providing the super frames have never been used for brood-rearing, this can still be recovered, Try scraping the comb back to the midrib. If the granulation is not too hard, this can be achieved. If not, smash out the whole comb, break the comb up into a bucket, put the lid on and warm in a honey warming cabinet or controllable oven to 480C to liquefy the honey, but not the wax. Then it can be filtered as before. This sort of procedure will soon convince the beginner of the benefit of the centrifugal extractor.

Mrs Fiddlesticks



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 08 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jocorless wrote:
Having looked myself - I think this is what Thornes call a Standard Uncapping Tray at the lovely cheap price of £212+VAT - Although I suspect if you are going to have lots of OSR honey it might be worth investing

I found this bit of info from here https://www.beedata.com/data2/basic_honey_processing.htm which might help

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Possibly the beekeeper has been caught out by oil seed rape, and has combs of solid honey. Providing the super frames have never been used for brood-rearing, this can still be recovered, Try scraping the comb back to the midrib. If the granulation is not too hard, this can be achieved. If not, smash out the whole comb, break the comb up into a bucket, put the lid on and warm in a honey warming cabinet or controllable oven to 480C to liquefy the honey, but not the wax. Then it can be filtered as before. This sort of procedure will soon convince the beginner of the benefit of the centrifugal extractor.


that's what I think it means on reflection. The frames aren't solid 100% OSR but enough to make spinning difficult. I'm going to cut a frame back and warm in oven and see what happens I think. The temp thing is interesting info. Books so far had been vague and I didn't want to over heat it all.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 08 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'm assuming that's 48 deg C not 480 C
A pratley tray is exactly the same as thornes expensive uncapping tray.
https://secure.thorne.co.uk/popup/extract9.htm
An old fridge with a light bulb connected to a thermostat would be a lot cheaper. 50w bulb will heat a fridge to 48C easily.
Wondering if you could warm the frames before uncapping & then extract in the usual way?

Mrs Fiddlesticks



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 08 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

got an uncapping tray and it worked. Not quick though. Strained it through a double strainer so there is only minimal wax on top in the bucket.




plan is to let that honey set and then cream it before bottling

Lorrainelovesplants



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 08 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Our bees finish on OSR at end June. your best to take it off right away. If you cant get it out of the comb now, remove this comb and put it somewhere and replace it for winter feeding. the bees will then consume it through the lean autumn time. Did it last year, saved me feeding with fondant.

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