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coyotekiller



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Location: Iowa, USA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 4:15 am    Post subject: re:how Reply with quote
    

Hi Cab. Yes I'd be happy to share some pics of the skinning process. Don't have any at this time but, well I never knew there was an interest. I'm curious as to what type of rifles you folks most commonly use for deer and other large game. I am strictly a handgunner for deer. 357 magnum or 44 magnum. Depends on time of year and mostly my whims. Handgunning gives every possible edge in favor of the deer or whatever else I may be after. I do so love a challenge. Anyway we eat deer meat all year between seasons so I guess it's all working out. Next deer I have I'll take some pics. Have a great day.

cab



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: re:how Reply with quote
    

Cheers Coyotekiller. Somewhere here there's a thread about curing deer skins, so there's clearly some interest in the whole process. And a lot of people here want to know more about skinning and butcherig animals; the articles on skinning, paunching and jointing a rabbit have been very popular, and I think a deer one might be even more so.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: re:how Reply with quote
    

coyotekiller wrote:
I am strictly a handgunner for deer. 357 magnum or 44 magnum. Depends on time of year and mostly my whims. Handgunning gives every possible edge in favor of the deer or whatever else I may be after. I do so love a challenge.


Isn't there a greater risk of wounding an animal with a hand gun or do you ensure you're close enough to guarantee a clean kill?

A .243 calibre rifle is a well known calibre in the UK but different people prefer different calibres, then you have the various laws which are different in Scotland than the rest of the UK and then the laws are changing soon for some smaller deer! All a bit confusing to the beginner so I'll leave it to someone who knows what they are talking about to tell you more.

coyotekiller



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Location: Iowa, USA
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hello Treadactyl. I live in the state of Iowa in the U.S.. The preferred weapon for deer here is the 12 guage slug gun. Only gun legal for a long time was shotgun or muzzleloader. This year they are starting a very short centerfire rifle season for does only. In answer to your question Yes there is a greater chance of having a wounded animal with a handgun. I reload my own ammo so I practice a lot......a whole lot. I live in the country so I can shoot as I please. All my revolvers have scopes and were designed with the hunter in mind. I have never had to shoot a deer more than once and I have never lost one. In my life I have had only one get out of my sight after I shot it. Honest to God they usually drop in their tracks when I shoot them. I usually shoot within 75 yards but I do have a 111 yard doe kill with the 357 mag. She took three steps and dropped. I may brag a bit by saying I am probably one of the best handgunners I have ever seen. Practice does pay off but a person needs to retain that training when in the field. So I have stands set up on my property just to duplicate shots I may have to make on an animal. Normally I am a stalker. My closest kill was on a doe at thirty feet. She never knew I was there. But I make sure I have the skill to make a longer shot if needed. Anyway I do understand that many people feel that handguns are unethical at best. How about archery? I used to bow hunt only till a shoulder injury put an end to that forever. Yet a handgun is more accurate, hits harder and in the right hands is certainly more humane. Have a great day.

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bowhunting in Britain is technically ilegal sine the late 1970's, sadly. As a result, those of us who still do it, can't talk about it for fear that Big Brother is looking in at us while we type.

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Madman wrote:
Bowhunting in Britain is technically ilegal sine the late 1970's, sadly. As a result, those of us who still do it, can't talk about it for fear that Big Brother is looking in at us while we type.


I assume that you used to do it, what prey did you go for with a bow?

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

When I was a kid my father and I used to shoot deer with longbows with bladed tips, in Dorset. In America this sport is still practised with very high levels of accuracy, using astonishingly powerful bows, arrow tips that have pop out blades, etc!

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Clean kills?

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

This Autumn I've been invited to Utah for Wild Turkey shooting with 12 guage AND bows, something I'm very much looking forward to!

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yeah I remember you saying that, what are they like? How wild, what sort of habitat?

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Clean kills?


Normally, a heart shot will drop a deer within a few yards of impact. Blood loss is very rapid, so a well placed arrow will weaken the animal very fast indeed. A follow up arrow if needed is only seconds behind the first.

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Yeah I remember you saying that, what are they like? How wild, what sort of habitat?


Totally wild, they are vermin there. Scrubby farmland, I believe, but have not been to Utah before.

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

So would it be stalking them or what?

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think that with 12 guage it's a driven shoot with beaters, but with longbows, it's a matter of stalking. This make sit rather exciting / dangerous, since they also have wild boar and big cats there!

tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sounds like good fun, what's the weather likely to be?

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