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Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:26 pm    Post subject: New rifle  Reply with quote    

I want something in .223, for both foxing and that I can use in practical rifle contests or in Service Rifle shooting. Doing so much field shooting, I find the one-round-every-three-minutes of prone target shooting a bit dull.

Will people please put me off doing this, or otherwise I shall end up with an AR-15, and win the disapproval of all target shooting purists, and probably upset vegetarians too. Vegetarians often find an AR quite upsetting for some reason.

Bebo



Joined: 21 May 2007
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Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Don't do it.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Bebo wrote:
Don't do it.


Reasons. Give me reasons.

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Because you'll be living the dream of every teenager/social inadequate who ever bought "Guns and Ammo". And you really don't want that.

Bebo



Joined: 21 May 2007
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Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
Bebo wrote:
Don't do it.


Reasons. Give me reasons.


Because I said so?

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Sean has come up with a very good reason. But then again, I do know what an actual nude lady looks like, so there is already some considerable, demonstrable distance between me and the readership of Guns and Ammo.

richierobins



Joined: 07 Dec 2008
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Location: Dorset
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: New rifle Reply with quote    

Brownbear wrote:
I want something in .223, for both foxing and that I can use in practical rifle contests or in Service Rifle shooting. Doing so much field shooting, I find the one-round-every-three-minutes of prone target shooting a bit dull.

Will people please put me off doing this, or otherwise I shall end up with an AR-15, and win the disapproval of all target shooting purists, and probably upset vegetarians too. Vegetarians often find an AR quite upsetting for some reason.


Always give in to temptation, lost opportunities may never be regained. Get the Armalite.

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21298
Location: Ynys Môn
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

AR15's are the rifle for practical rifle competitions. Bangor hosted the national comps this weekend.

Well I think it was the national comps, it was a big event anyway and I didn't go even though it's my local club.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I had a look at the AUG-Z and it's junk. They just took out the blowback mechanism - no other redesign at all.

SheepShed



Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 332
Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Why not go for the AR-15 but keep the vegetarians happy with this non-threatening model ?


GENT



Joined: 03 Jun 2008
Posts: 387
Location: Student diggs- coventry.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

It sounds like great fun!
arn't the above firearms semi auto though?
I thought that anything that wasn't rimfire or a shotgun was illegal in semi auto?
And if they are not, surely a bolt action firearm will be just as fast if not faster than having to fiddle around with an AR-15 mechanism. better still, a lever action?

Do it BB! go on Do IT! You'll enjoy yourself!

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Ynys Môn
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

GENT wrote:
It sounds like great fun!
arn't the above firearms semi auto though?
I thought that anything that wasn't rimfire or a shotgun was illegal in semi auto?
And if they are not, surely a bolt action firearm will be just as fast if not faster than having to fiddle around with an AR-15 mechanism. better still, a lever action?

Do it BB! go on Do IT! You'll enjoy yourself!


They're designed to be semi-auto but deactivated in that respect for the UK. It's quicker than a bolt action (with perhaps the exception of a Lee-Enfield .303) as all you need to do is slide the bolt back and let go.

KILLITnGRILLIT



Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 09 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Get the AR, it is both an accurate rifle and as you will be using it for Mr.Todd, then it doesn`t need to be carried far or "need" to be a looker..............accurate as an accurate thing in accurateville on accurate day.

What twist rate , flavour of ammo are we going for ??







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Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 09 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

The configuration I'm looking at as 1 16" or possibly 20" 1:8 barrel, in a fairly standard AR configuration, suitable for the Civilian Service Rifle contest with optics removed and the rear sight/carry handle in place. Being fairly standard, it wouldn't be one of the half-ton jobs with great iron barrels that some ARs are, so fine for the field.

For ammo, most people use 69-gr Scenars for a target load, but I'd have to experiment for a good fox load - maybe go the light/fast route with some 45-gr Noslers I've got. I might even work up a heavier load for small deer.

Southern Gun Company just over the border in Bandit Country make very good ARs and I might pop over for a look next week, if I have a free day again in this life.

KILLITnGRILLIT



Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Posts: 894
Location: Looking at a screen in the front room
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 09 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

A friend has one and I had intended in putting a good few rounds through it at Bisley last year but unfortunately couldn`t go. He uses it for fox exclusively as he doesn`t have stalking rights and he also "rolls his own" to good effect

Nice rifle, but I still like my 595 Tikka in .222 ........nice and light, however I also have a T3 with heavy barrel mod and synth stock in 6.5 Not exactly a lightweight !





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