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tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 05 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sorry forgot about this, they produce I reckon 60% of the light of the equivalent halogens, there are warm whites available but the ones I got were a bluish white, very cold.

jema
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 05 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

In for a penny.... 10 on order. I think I will probably need to install more lights to make up for the low output.

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 05 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Get 'em in first, you never know you might find they're OK

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 05 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Get 'em in first, you never know you might find they're OK


You never know, and there is no great place/way for extra lights in the kitchen, so it will take a bit of thought anyway.,

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 05 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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Dear Martin
Thank you for your recent internet order. Unfortunately we are currently out of stock of this item and will no longer stock it. However, we will be stockng an alternative bulb which will appear on our webite next week.
I have therefore cancelled your order and wait to hear from you following the release of our new stock.
Regards
Hilary Ritchie
led-lightbulbs sales



tahir



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 05 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'd say that's good news, I'd assume that the new version should improve on the old.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well I got them, and even with 7 bulbs in the kitchen, they don't really cut it

tahir



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is that the new version?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 05 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, and I figure they need at least twice the output to get to a sensible level. I will probably swap out a couple for "real" bulbs.

tawny owl



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

On the subject of bulbs generally, does anyone know whether halogens are as/more green than energy-saving ones? I've tried the energy-saving ones (several types) and I find they all give a pathetic and rather eye-straining light, and also seem to blow a lot faster than normal bulbs. Most of our fittings are halogen anyway, and I'm considering changing some of the others. I'm assuming halogens aren't too bad, considering they are generally only 25 or 50 watt, but I'd be interested to know for sure.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tawny owl wrote:
On the subject of bulbs generally, does anyone know whether halogens are as/more green than energy-saving ones? I've tried the energy-saving ones (several types) and I find they all give a pathetic and rather eye-straining light, and also seem to blow a lot faster than normal bulbs. Most of our fittings are halogen anyway, and I'm considering changing some of the others. I'm assuming halogens aren't too bad, considering they are generally only 25 or 50 watt, but I'd be interested to know for sure.


240v Halogens are horrible. expensive and blow all the time.

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
240v Halogens are horrible. expensive and blow all the time.


Odd, I've had 5 in my kitchen for nearly 2 years now without a problem. I'd prefer to use 12V, but I've got them on a dimmer switch so I don't blind myself on dark mornings.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Northern_Lad wrote:
jema wrote:
240v Halogens are horrible. expensive and blow all the time.


Odd, I've had 5 in my kitchen for nearly 2 years now without a problem. I'd prefer to use 12V, but I've got them on a dimmer switch so I don't blind myself on dark mornings.


Well I have tried various brands and none of them live up to hours of life promised, and my brother says the same thing. It might be something to do with electric supply quality, but whatever it is I got sick of buying them.

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 05 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I have used 50w 12v Osram halogen spots in office and kitchen for a couple of years, but as Jema says, they keep blowing, and are expensive to replace. Better, however, than the long life ones, that keep you in semi darkness.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 05 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Northern_Lad wrote:
Odd, I've had 5 in my kitchen for nearly 2 years now without a problem. I'd prefer to use 12V, but I've got them on a dimmer switch so I don't blind myself on dark mornings.


Me too - they do blow now and again, but I certainly wouldn't say more often than normal bulbs. Mine's on dimmer as well - maybe it's the sudden surge of leccy that blows them?

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