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oldish chris

Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 4148
Location: Comfortably Wet Southport

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:10 pm Post subject:

Dumnonian wrote:

Jamanda wrote:

I'm afraid £1.50 a kilo meat cannot have reared in a way that would make me prepared to eat it. When I was truly broke I was veggie.

Can't see all the poor people in Britain turning veggie, somehow!

And why should they? Just because they're on the wrong end of an iniquitous and destructive system.

I think you've answered your own question. The poor people of Britain will eat awful food with declining meat content because they are on the wrong end of an iniquitous and destructive system.

I chip into this forum hoping that I can obtain, and occasionally offer, the odd little bit of advice on how to live well on little money.

The thought of good quality bacon at the price of bulk purchased pork definitely has some mileage.

Dumnonian

Joined: 27 Feb 2011
Posts: 67
Location: North Devon

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:12 pm Post subject:

[quote="Tavascarow:1086137"]

Dumnonian wrote:

Jamanda wrote:

Can't see all the poor people in Britain turning veggie, somehow!

And why should they? Just because they're on the wrong end of an iniquitous and destructive system.

Because the cost of food is going to rise in relation to the cost of fuel, it already is.
If we can't afford to buy meat where are you going to get it from?
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Well that's the question isn't it.

This isn't about you, me and others here and whether we can get home-cured bacon. So what.

The point of this thread is surely is that the social, economic and political system we are collaborating with (willingly or unwillingly) is unjust, and it is rightly collapsing.

How will people react?

History suggests not very pleasantly.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 45521
Location: yes

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:20 pm Post subject:
i will take me chances against a hungry hairdresser come the poccylips

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:23 pm Post subject:
Oh cheer up everyone. There's a Royal Wedding to look forward to!

Dumnonian

Joined: 27 Feb 2011
Posts: 67
Location: North Devon

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:28 pm Post subject:

dpack wrote:

i will take me chances against a hungry hairdresser come the poccylips

Ye, i hear 'long pig' is verrry tasty ... and there's plenty of it around - nicely fattened up too!

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:36 pm Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

Oh cheer up everyone. There's a Royal Wedding to look forward to!

I wasn't invited. So its not all bad.

Penny Outskirts

Joined: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 23385
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:38 pm Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

Oh cheer up everyone. There's a Royal Wedding to look forward to!

Yay - day off!

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 8:39 pm Post subject:

dpack wrote:

i will take me chances against a hungry hairdresser come the poccylips

Don't want to eat one of those. Think of all the hairspray fumes they've breathed in.

OP

Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 4661
Location: Yorkshire

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:07 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

Didn't you hear? Phillp Hammond, the transport secretary, has been wanting to raise speed limits to 80mph. Apparently that would be good for the economy. He's also on record as saying that road safety shouldn't be the only deciding factor either.

Governments may change but the policies stay the same. This was also the Labour government approach- Hammond is simply regurgitating his predecessor's policy. Our local road safety campaign has been told many times over the last 8 years that if we want road safety improvements we need to focus on the economic criteria.

gil
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Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 11 9:56 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

i sent a Whole Ham up to Gretna Green on Friday,

Just out of interest, was that to the Food Hall, or one of the hotels, or for someone's wedding ?

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4563
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 11 12:32 am Post subject:
No,it was to a Roofing contractor in Gretna

cab

Joined: 01 Nov 2004
Posts: 32429

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 11 6:20 pm Post subject:
Well thought out blog article on the subject: https://cycalogical.blogspot.com/2011/03/national-carbon-plan-by-confused-of.html (note, thats the subjet of the discussion, not the subject of bacon)

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 45521
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 11 6:30 pm Post subject:

Jamanda wrote:

How are you marketing it?

(how did we get from the Libyan crisis to the price of bacon?

)

it is hard to sell bacon in libya

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 45521
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 11 7:07 pm Post subject:

cab wrote:

dpack wrote:

i will take me chances against a hungry hairdresser come the poccylips

Don't want to eat one of those. Think of all the hairspray fumes they've breathed in.

umm fumes

Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 11 7:08 pm Post subject:

How about a bit of realism from the Guardian. If the Libyan crisis is so critical how come the oil price has only risen about 12%? Some would say much of that is down to speculators rather than a real rise. Then you factor in tax on petrol and diesel and the rise at the pumps due to this crisis will be less than 5%? Is that really cause for concern for the average household?

By all means come up with constructive plans for reducing our reliance on fossil fuels but I would prefer some reasoned thinking rather than a knee jerk reaction to one event.

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