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dan1



Joined: 23 Jun 2010
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Location: Bristolish
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 11 7:36 pm    Post subject: "TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT" Reply with quote
    

Is it legal to put a threatening notice like this on your barn wall? I'm having a dispute with an angry aggressive farmer who's taken exception to my beehive. It's been there a year in my garden + is close to the blind wall of a long vacant stable which he's decided to rent out to horses. There's a 10ft hedge twixt hive and stable also. He's threatening court if I don't move it. I don't think legally he has a leg to stand on. I just wondered if I could point out that this is a dodgy thing to write on a wall (it isn't even illegal to trespass if damage isn't caused, I believe)

Behemoth



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 11 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Don't think it's illegal, it might be 'humour'. Of course actually shooting people is frowned upon.

misty07



Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Posts: 2223
Location: swindon wiltshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 11 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

when i went to train as a security guard i was told there is no law on trespass as all you do is ask them to leave but then if they step on a blade of grass and snap it that's criminal damage and you can be prosecuted on that charge so i believe good luck on your problem

Jb



Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 7761
Location: 91� N
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 11 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Possibly not very helpful but I used to have a sign which read 'trespassers will be shot and, if practicable, questioned'

misty07



Joined: 22 Jan 2010
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Location: swindon wiltshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 11 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

JB wrote:
Possibly not very helpful but I used to have a sign which read 'trespassers will be shot and, if practicable, questioned'
i seen the one saying trespassers will be shot and violators will be shot again or something along them lines.

woody guthrie



Joined: 28 Jan 2009
Posts: 209
Location: Cork, Ireland
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 11 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is this the one you mean Misty?


Behemoth



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Location: Leeds
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 11 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Not sure what it's got to do with bees though and suspect arsey farmer is legless, but not in a drunken manner.

perlogalism



Joined: 27 Nov 2009
Posts: 440
Location: Near Welshpool
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 11 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

How about putting up a sign of your own?

"Armed farmers will be stung" seems appropriate

kirstyfern



Joined: 03 Jan 2010
Posts: 1574
Location: Great Dunmow, Essex
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 11 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

He must be a bl**dy good shot to kill a bee....... !

T.G



Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Posts: 7280
Location: Somewhere you're not
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 11 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We had one which said trespassers would be eaten we had several gt danes at the time - it was, however, in jest but overall it's not a good idea

Mutton



Joined: 09 May 2009
Posts: 1508

PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 11 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We used to keep bees and will again when we have the time, so sympathise.
Couple of thoughts:
Are the bees flying at a level across his yard, where they could bounce off a rider mounted on a horse? And then potentially sting the rider? Who could then fall off, be seriously injured etc?

(Was called into a row once, not my bees, where someone was having outside work done on their house and the builders on the scaffolding were stung as the scaffolding was in next door's bees flight path, 8 feet off the ground. Beekeeper paid for plastic mesh cladding to be purchased, builders put it on outside of scaffolding, bees diverted round, everyone happy.)

Are you already insured and does that include public liability?

No excuse for him being aggressive, but you could run into other problems. The sensible thing to my mind would be for him to advise the riders to lead their horses out of the yard and then mount, if there is a regular flight path across the yard.

Further to that, some years since I kept bees, but I do remember vaguely there being several chemicals that are sprayed on horses which read like the pheromone for "sting here we are under attack" when a bee smells it. Can't remember if only for sale in the US, or was also in UK. Same for a brand of hairspray, but think that was US only.

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York
PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 11 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: "TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT" Reply with quote
    

dan1 wrote:
It's been there a year in my garden + is close to the blind wall of a long vacant stable which he's decided to rent out to horses.


You say that as if it's somehow an inappropriate use... I guess it depends upon what the horses using it for.

giveitago



Joined: 02 Jan 2011
Posts: 151
Location: surrey
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 11 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Im suprised no one has thought of the BEWARE OF THE BEE sign.

Mrs R



Joined: 15 Aug 2008
Posts: 7202

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 11 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Horses n bees - I once bought a hat, and as soon as I had a bee came along and started frantically stinging it in my hand I asked why and the guy said 'it's horseskin'.

Wasn't quite sure if that was a myth or what?...

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 11 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No, it was a bee.

A myth is a female moth. Everyone knows that.

Coat time?

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