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Blacksheep



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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Location: Shropshire
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 12 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hi onemanband, yes we may need to look more into that option, I have just had one local builder out to look at it so far, I made it clear that we were exploring options, including the one you suggest, at the moment, and he is aware of the local planning designations. His opinion was that it was not worthwhile to refurbish the existing dwelling as it may not be structually sound enough, although also he said we could be looking at up to 40k for demolition, so I take your point. I think that the fact that there will still be all that asbestos in the building that is a concern to me, but maybe it shouldn't be if it is properly sealed. Do you think building regs approvals would be needed for any work like this, as if so then maybe I should be checking with them sooner rather than later to see whether or not this type of recladding and lining work would be permitted for the building.
I think I will get together some quotes for demolition, which will help decide on exploring this option further, and as you say should hopefully be easier than getting a replacement building through planning. From the planning aspect I am also wondering whether it would be possible to keep the basic framework in place, just replacing any deteriorated woodwork, and then actually replace the asbestos panels with new (non asbestos!) ones...think I need to talk to another builder, obviously this still entails the cost of asbestos removal.

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 12 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

One of our neighbours couldn't get planning for an extension but it was easily passed for a demolition & rebuild, 10% bigger...

Blacksheep



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 12 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hmm interesting Rob, I have just spoken with the planning department and am awaiting confirmation on the whether they consider the building falls within the curtilage of the nearby listed buildings. I think they will want it to, certainly against replacement with a log cabin type construction, likely to want a rebuilt to be similar design to the listed buildings so that is probably out cost-wise. Apparently no problem with refurbishment of the existing building as long as it doesn't look any worse than what is already there, however they did think that the asbestos would probably prevent refurbishment of the existing building.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 12 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sounds like it's a white elephant
Is there space to build somewhere else ?
i.e don't demolish bungalow - reclassify as an outbuilding or defer cost of demo till later or leave problem for future owners.

Blacksheep



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 12 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, difficult to know what to do and I probably would be tempted to just leave it for potential new owners sometime in the future but for having to continue paying full Council tax on it.
Had a further discussion with the planners, and it makes little difference whether it is the curtilage of the listed buildings or not, as they will be seeking the same outcome which ever, high quality build and materials, appropriate design etc, if it is not considered to be in the curtilage then there will still be consultation with the conservation officer. If it is not considered to be part of the curtilage that is because they will have determined the building historically (there was a CI barn on the site previously) was more associated with the adjoining woodland area rather than the nearby listed buildings. I would have thought a log cabin would be very appropriate for a building associated with woodland but there you go!
Will try and investigate the asbestos issue a bit further
thanks for all the advice

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