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RichardW



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Storage depends on equipment but a few ides:-

Heritas fencing
Sheep hurdles or spare gates
sheep wire fencing in rings
sheep wire fencing fixed to pallets
pallets as walls
wind break plastic fencing in rings
wind break fencing on pallets with corner posts
Vented log bulk bags (sized from 0.2m3 to 2.5m3)


All above can be on solid ground or raised on pallets. Raising is always best.

All can be covered on top by plastic, metal roofing or what ever you have. Dont cover the sides. long and thin is better than big squares for air flow. Random fill is better for drying than stacked but stacked takes up less space.

The big saver is stop double handling. Fell cut split & store is as few process / movements as possible. Pick the log up once & it stays up till its in the store.

With the processor, bring all the wood to one site & get them to split straight into your storage using the conveyor belt.

We stack our lengths next to the tractor, on the back of the tractor is the log saw & to the right of that the splitter & the right of that the storage. Lengths to storage is less than 4m.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Until I get a tractor sorted though I'm going to have to process stuff in stages. At them moment I have to cut and even split logs in situ to enable loading them into a car and moving to the house.

If I can cut, split and stack some of the smaller stuff then it'll lose some of its weight before transporting it. Also at the moment I don't have any long term storage, I make up pallet bays as I go.

I do understand what is ideal (buying in crated kiln dried wood from Eastern Europe ).

Slim



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Until I get a tractor sorted though I'm going to have to process stuff in stages. At them moment I have to cut and even split logs in situ to enable loading them into a car and moving to the house.

If I can cut, split and stack some of the smaller stuff then it'll lose some of its weight before transporting it. Also at the moment I don't have any long term storage, I make up pallet bays as I go.

I do understand what is ideal (buying in crated kiln dried wood from Eastern Europe ).


You move your firewood in your car? I bet that gets old quick.


I don't have a woodburning setup right now, but the ideal for me is a hillside woodlot. Cutting in early spring as buds are breaking so that bud break draws a bit more moisture out of the log, then bucking for summer curing, splitting when the temps start getting below freezing, and stacking for another year of drying. Hopefully the process proceeds down the hillside so that gravity does most of the hauling.

Ah, fantasies......

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Slim wrote:
You move your firewood in your car? I bet that gets old quick.


Yep, and plenty more besides. I often have to use covers to keep things clean from the car. But then many small outfits deliver logs commercially over here using a trailer so I'm not doing too bad.

A small tractor and all the trimmings (trailer, splitter, loader etc) is on the 'to be sorted' list.

Still, I cut a few cube with just a bow saw until I sorted out a chainsaw, that's progress.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
Slim wrote:
You move your firewood in your car? I bet that gets old quick.


Yep, and plenty more besides. I often have to use covers to keep things clean from the car. But then many small outfits deliver logs commercially over here using a trailer so I'm not doing too bad.

A small tractor and all the trimmings (trailer, splitter, loader etc) is on the 'to be sorted' list.

Still, I cut a few cube with just a bow saw until I sorted out a chainsaw, that's progress.


not as quick as collecting by bicycle

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I use my bike to collect thorns.

Anyway, anyone read the book apart from Erik?

Jam Lady



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Holzhaufen here at BelleWood Gardens


Slim



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 15 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

A roof with some airspace underneath it! I feel like that is a big leg up for drying, regardless of stacking style.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 15 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

When we cut firewood just for ourselves we used the car. Had to replace the rear springs I will admit, but the car also carried stuff for craft stalls, tentage and everything else we needed to shift. Our current one sometimes has up to 10 log sacks in it for delivery, as that is the maximum I am happy with shifting by myself in one go. Any more and husband and son use the truck.

You seem to be going the best way for you at the moment Treacodactyl. It does take time to develop. We started selling firewood splitting with axes; my duty to supply the logs for splitting and pick up split ones, which kept all of us fit. We currently tend to season in the length and cut directly into the truck for delivery, but if we put some in store, we put the processed logs into a sort of polytunnel with open ends. For the amount you are dealing with, I would suggest a stack, ideally off the ground if you can get the pallets, or make up a frame, with just cover over the top. As long as it isn't too high, and stacked, you shouldn't need the mesh sides. Erikht, we don't very often get crisp, dry, autumn days; more likely to be wet and mild.

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