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Rob R

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 13 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: EU to ban neonicotinoid pesticides despite no majority v

Hairyloon wrote:

Rob R wrote:

Hairyloon wrote:

That article says we abstained. Why is everyone saying we voted against it?

Because the article got it wrong.

Can we get a confirmation on the facts? Did we vote against, or did we abstain?
I want to know if I need to find someone to have a froth at.

Yes, we voted 'no' to a ban this time. We have previously abstained from past votes on the subject.

jamanda
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Posted: Wed May 01, 13 6:35 am Post subject:
"we"?

Rob R

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Posted: Wed May 01, 13 8:01 am Post subject:
The United Kingdom.

Tavascarow

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Posted: Wed May 01, 13 12:49 pm Post subject:

NorthernMonkeyGirl wrote:

Thanks.

I would guess anything harvested before flowering would not be "attractive" so beets/roots in general? And wind pollinated crops of course... But then, what is the mechanism of the neonic toxicity? Would neonic-affected maize pollen drift on the breeze and still cause trouble I wonder?

Bees will take pollen from wind pollinated plants like maize.

Mistress Rose

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Posted: Wed May 01, 13 4:06 pm Post subject:
Rob, do you know exactly what pests neonicitonoids are supposed to prevent? Those who don't want them banned say it will mean more spraying and lower yields, while those for the ban say that changing the way things are grown will compensate.

Rob R

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Posted: Wed May 01, 13 4:32 pm Post subject:

Mistress Rose wrote:

Rob, do you know exactly what pests neonicitonoids are supposed to prevent? Those who don't want them banned say it will mean more spraying and lower yields, while those for the ban say that changing the way things are grown will compensate.

No, I'm not that interested in annual crops, and even less in pesticides. However if it were that easy to avoid the negative effects of pests without the pesticides I would have thought they'd be doing it already and saving on the cost of seed treatments. I suspect the truth is somewhere down the middle, yields will go down, and spraying will rise, but not to the degree that opponents of the ban suggest. It will inevitably cause food prices to rise more than they would otherwise.

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