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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 45377 Location: yes
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cassandra
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 1733 Location: Tasmania Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 20 7:32 am Post subject: |
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If you look in the basket to the bottom left, there is a square edged thing with some yarn tangled around it. That is the flyer. It goes on the metal shaft and the orifice end drops into the saddle on the short stick closest to the camera. It's Irish tension so the drive band goes over the bobbin and as far as I can tell some sort of strap drops over the orifice to secure it in place. whether that is part of the flyer or missing in action is a bit of a mystery so far.
The tension on Irish tension is apparently a bit tighter than on Scotch tension, so pulls the yarn in more rapidly - handy for art yarn I gather from my reading around the internet, and also for chunkier yarns (a big positive as I spin quite fine).
I was reading the shadow as diagonal split break along the grain, but it is just a shadow and it appears all bits are present (unlike the Traditional on the right). There's also at least two bobbins for it, as the traddy bobbins are different to those I can see. Also the fitted lazy kate is in the basket so not MIA as originally thought. I have finally contacted the vendor and they are apparently not snowed under with offers, so I will go look on Saturday.
I also have the manufacturer's guide to assembly which shows all parts clearly, so I can do a stock take. Meanwhile the local wool shop being an Ashford dealer can hopefully supply missing parts, though as this wheel went out of production in the 1980s, they are no longer manufacturing them, so it's only if it's in stock.
Feeling quite chuffed. But I really need to start my online red cross training for tomorrow's training day, haha.
Today was at the shop where I sold 86.00 worth of stock and half filled a bobbin with steel grey yarn. So a good successful day once more. |
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cassandra
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 1733 Location: Tasmania Australia
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15539
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 20 7:59 am Post subject: |
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If they are all in bits with parts missing, I wouldn't be paying too much for them. Don't know what the asking price is, but if the seller isn't exactly snowed under with offers, I would do some bargaining on them. Useful you have found the types and the manuals, so you can tell which bits are missing.
Dpack, with hand spinning, it is not usual to have the fibre pre-twisted. It is either spun from the fleece, which is usually carded, either by hand or drum carder, or from rovings or similar. The last 2 projects I did I got rovings as they were beautifully coloured but my next one will be from the fleece. When I have finished my rug, which should be quite soon now. |
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 45377 Location: yes
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 20 10:09 am Post subject: |
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the spun from fluffy sausages takes the skilled fingers part out of spinning, tis just a matter of changing rollers and cones, tying string and adjusting tensions.
i did not know that hand spinners always treat the select and order the fibres, the feed as one process.
from a quick rough calculation of spinning frame vs hand spinner/s a basic frame that one person can mind is about 200 to 500 times more productive than one person and a wheel.
hand made and machine made are different products and very different societies
i am from an area that felt the full effects of that, a couple of days back i was telling a taxi driver we were on a battlefield while sitting at traffic lights . the dragoons had 2 cannon and grapeshot, the luddites had no artillery and our spot was right in the middle of the carnage. iirc that was 1811 but from the 1780's to the 1840's things got quite radical at times.
a complex mix of politics, economics, societal change often bordering on ethnic cleansing and or enslavement(by wages and dependency) and at times looking more like genocide.
the bad stuff was partially countered by the enlightenment, worker education and solidarity, shooting the odd scumbag or whatever was useful at times at others less so those and a few other things eventually led to getting some men the vote and some of the worst georgian excesses being curbed.
im not sure but iirc some of our later luddites/chartists might have ended upside down others were less fortunate and got dead or fled/migrated/got job in't mill/starved etc
les saboteurs and the luddites had similar issues in that one machine could starve a community of hundreds. |
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cassandra
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 1733 Location: Tasmania Australia
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 45377 Location: yes
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gregotyn
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 2201 Location: Llanfyllin area
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cassandra
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 1733 Location: Tasmania Australia
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 20 7:06 am Post subject: |
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No he married a nice girl from Newcastle who had been transported for robbing her employer of 10 guineas, and they set up a farm and butchers shop.
I thought I was doing a First Aid training course today so sat up till midnight doing the online component and thus slept in. Made it on time, but it turns out that was one of the dates I had blocked out, and the actual course is not till the 19th. So having nothing better to do I popped out to look at the wheels and ended up bringing them home as the owner knows where I live and I promised to pay on Tuesday.
The Scholar has all its working parts apart from a missing bush or washer from the main wheel. There's a long screw that attaches it to the upright, but according to the manual there's something that is supposed to go between the wheel and the upright. So that part has progressed as far as it can, and I have 'broken' the flyer and reglued it as who ever did the job last time didn't know what 90 degrees looked like.
It's a very small wheel, and has a great design element which they seem to have dropped in later wheels. The upright is adjustable in height, so the orifice can be at the height that best suits the spinner. It is also a large orifice (you can get a reducer) so good for art yarn and other chunky stuff.
I've scrubbed it all down with steel wool, turps and linseed, so it looks much nicer, and smells divine. So it's only little things like the spring for the tension and such like that require a trip to the hardware.
The other wheel is an Ashford Traditional - they are a dime a dozen, but a nice useful beginner's wheel. The poor thing has been sitting in a shed so long the glue has come unstuck at the hub, so I need to find my clamps so I can reglue it (heaven knows where they are, I have looked in most possible places).
The basket contained three flyers, one each for the two wheels, and a spare on which had me mystified until someone pointed out it looked a bit like a jumbo flyer. Quite a bit like when I compared it with the one I already have. Three of the bobbins are mystery bobbins, but the other 5 belong to the two wheels. Some require re-glueing.
And a couple of cards and a comb to boot. So a fair bit of work to get each wheel going, but worth it, as I should be able to sell the traddie (and lazy kate and bobbins) for the same price as I bought the lot for. Our craft outlet opens on the 20th and I can sell it through there.
So not an entirely wasted, day, and still more to be done on wheels tonight.
Tomorrow will be a bullock parade to raise funds for the bushfire victims on the mainland, so I may well dig out my victorian gown and go spin in the street for a bit. |
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15539
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 20 7:57 am Post subject: |
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An ancestor of my husbands was give a trip to Australia for a difference of opinion about a pig. He claimed he carried it home for a bet, but neither the owner or the magistrate believed him. As far as I know, by Australian family arrived by more respectable means, but as we have completely lost touch I have no idea. Husband also has more recently emigrated family in Aus.
I hope your bullock parade goes well Cassandra; for a good cause, and should be quite a spectacle. Glad the wheels have turned out to be worth having. Personally, I can't stand the smell of linseed oil, but we all have our own taste in smells as well as flavours and colours.
Dpack, I know the industrialisation of Britain was a bad time for ordinary people. I am not sure how the effects were felt down here, as this has nearly always been a rather agricultural area, but I am sure that the 'poor' didn't benefit here either. It has taken over a hundred years to get back the rights the people lost, so let us hope they are not lost again.
Spent the day bundling birch, so all of the stuff we cut Monday is now bundled and in store in subdued light. Hope it will all be all right and that the weather stays cool enough to get some more cut. I think I have about the same amount as last year, and a few bundles left over from that cutting, but they may well be used up before the new stuff is really ready. I also want to start making Sussex pimps, so will need the older stuff that is left over for that as well as any new stuff that is unsuitable for besoms. |
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 45377 Location: yes
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gregotyn
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 2201 Location: Llanfyllin area
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 20 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think I said my dad's lot came from Scotland and when sheep became preferable to people, they went to farm in Suffolk, where the land lord eventually took the land back and the family Gregory went to become steel men in Sheffield. Mother's side came from Kinlet in S. Shropshire where they were farmers, then coal merchants and bakers-what a combination-not sure how they met, as granddad's gang came from somewhere local to Wolverhampton. My Yorkshire dad, of the original Scottish lot, came to the midlands to an engineering company where he met my, now living in Willenhall, mother who lived opposite his digs above a café, they married and here are my brother and I!
I've done a bit of moving around Walsall-Wolverhampton-Bridgnorth- Llanrhaeadr-Y-M, and now Llanfyllin, and very happy!
Not sure how anyone would want to fall out over a pig to get a free trip to Aus. Not sure I would want to lead a bullock in a street situation either, Cassandra. I guess you have to start young as they do with show cattle. And to watch I would want to be upstairs. Anyway good luck from a distance! I've shown a lot of pigs in my time and they can be "funny" to show in a ring with other pigs they haven't known since birth, or weaning. You have to do the "getting on together" stuff at home and with careful introductions! They all settle down eventually. When we used to wean 10 sows at a time, we would always put a boar in with them to help curb any trouble. I was lucky to get a pig man's job at Harper Adams College, after being a student there, for a few years, I learned a lot there, and forgotten most of it now!
Off now to get chopping and refurbish the shop with kindling a bit later on. |
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15539
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gregotyn
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 2201 Location: Llanfyllin area
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cassandra
Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 1733 Location: Tasmania Australia
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