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dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 15 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

on the subject of dominant alien species without natural predators

do humans fit that description in most landscapes ?

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 15 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sorry, can't think why I thought it was Nick that posted. It was Gregotyn. Sorry both.

No, Dpack, I don't think so. Humans have inhabited most parts of the world from before the last ice age, and they have plenty of natural predators. Certainly in the UK and other heavily populated countries, most of the predators have been destroyed, but humans recolonized the UK as the ice retreated, in the same way as other animals.

Nick



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 15 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No worries. I thought I might have posted drunk. I tend to operate in a beaver free zone, tho.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 15 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

They are a bit thin on the ground round here too as we don't have any streams within a few miles. We do have one coup in the woods called Beaver Acre though. The man that did the coppicing for us used a machete, and worked round some of the stems high like a beaver. We finished them lower with a chainsaw. Looked just like the beaver work in Devon. He went there afterwards.......

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 15 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: good news cos they build watersheds Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:
beaver photos included


Not what I was expecting DPack.

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 15 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Devon welcomes tapeworm-free beavers.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 15 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

good ,they will have to watch out they avoid well dogged trees if they want to stay worm free .

that worm is a classic for canine infestations as are many of that worm type.

wyrms

one possible cause of the spread through europe might be urban foxes but puppy farming/trafficking is another and more plausible vector,it is unlikely that beaver transport is a major factor but it is good they pass as healthy

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 15 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Good to hear they are parasite free.

If dogs carry this parasite, how come there isn't more control of it in dogs?

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 15 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

many folk are not good at worming mutts ,if one uses a broad spectrum spot on for most vermin and an oral specific for the tape worm varieties then the beaver relevant ones are included in the fallen.

the rise in farmed/trafficked fashionable and pedigree pups from the extended eu and post(avoiding)the rabies controls has given good vectors for a variety of parasites and diseases to spread to new areas.

worming is not not only good for bonzo ,worming is good for everything except worms.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 15 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

General dog health is a good thing. One thing that worries me about the dog muck left in the woods is that foxes or badgers can catch something from it. That is apart from the risk of stepping in it or getting it on our hands if something falls in it.

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 15 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

And they're back

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 15 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

with no harm perhaps but that last photo seems a bit intrusive

a slight aside is that "alien"species of plants are now officially considered of little importance to "native"species of plant

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 15 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Glad the beavers are officially healthy and released. Lets hope they can live happily with the locals.

Depends on what it is, but I would disagee with the statement about alien plants. We are very worried about Spanish bluebell invading our English bluebell wood.

buzzy



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 15 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I see the Daily Wail's headline is a careful and measured response -

"Fears grow as ravenous tree-eaters as big as collie dogs return to an English river - Are beavers about to chew up Britain?"


Henry

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 15 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

They do try to find the best angle to make a wail don't they?

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