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dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 15 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

phone charger=car charger and 12v battery .this will also power led lights quite well.

the strimmer will make a reasonable job of mowing unless you need a putting green.

evaporation fridge is a box and a wet towel in the shade .

just a few thoughts that avoids the expense and risks of 240v on long leads etc etc .

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 15 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you can get some charcoal fines from a charcoal burner you can make a very efficient fridge. Charcoal in a bowl or waterproof box, box or bowl in middle for cool things, keep charcoal damp and let it evaporate. It has a very high surface area and can absorb lots of water, so plenty to evaporate and keep your milk cool.

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Gas fridges can be quite effective if you want colder than basic evaporation.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 15 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yeah, I could do all of of those things. Or I could just plug in a lead! I was really hoping there was something simple like an owl, but that worked on a caravan hookup. Eventually I will have a submeter connected via armoured cable, but I can't afford at the moment.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 15 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wellington womble wrote:
Yeah, I could do all of of those things. Or I could just plug in a lead!

Ah yes, sorry I got distracted...
If folk are upgrading to these new smart meters, can you not just beg one of the old ones and plug it in?

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 15 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Unless we are taking about literally just plugging it in, it is beyond my skills at present. I dare say I can wire a plug with instructions, but I don't fancy practicing on anything connected!

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 15 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wellington womble wrote:
Unless we are taking about literally just plugging it in, it is beyond my skills at present. I dare say I can wire a plug with instructions, but I don't fancy practicing on anything connected!

No, you do want to disconnect it before you start with the wiring.
I'll probably be passing that way sooner or later: I'll be happy to drop by and wave a screwdriver about if you like...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 15 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wellington womble wrote:
I was really hoping there was something simple like an owl



You can make the owl work but you will need to open up the cable so that the sensor can go over just one wire.


Or THIS that I mentioned earlier but it is costly.

Graham Hyde



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 15 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hi WW. That offer from HL sounds good.
The meter that Richard W suggests is simplicity itself just a part of your extension cable.
Coloured blue means it is 220volts (the yellow are 110volts) and it is rated IP44 which means rain proof not waterproof as advertised (it would not cope with immersion).
You can buy extension leads with this type of socket at most builders suppliers you just then need to buy an adapter to go from the circular socket to the three pin socket you are used to.
Sorry but it is money, money, money but they should last a life time.

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 15 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

RichardW wrote:
wellington womble wrote:
I was really hoping there was something simple like an owl



You can make the owl work but you will need to open up the cable so that the sensor can go over just one wire.


Or THIS that I mentioned earlier but it is costly.


Ah, that's what I need. Perfect.

It's very kind of you to offer, HL, but the meter will do nicely until I can get the armoured cable in. Thank you all for your help and patience.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 15 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That metermaid sounds just what WW is after.
Although it is expensive, if not overpriced, for what it is.
My suggestion of 2 adaptors and a meter, although not waterproof, would set you back IRO £40.
Those sockets on the meter maid cost less than a tenner each and there's only a metre of cable. They're charging at least £110 for the meter part !

RichardW



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 15 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

onemanband wrote:
That metermaid sounds just what WW is after.
Although it is expensive, if not overpriced, for what it is.
My suggestion of 2 adaptors and a meter, although not waterproof, would set you back IRO £40.
Those sockets on the meter maid cost less than a tenner each and there's only a metre of cable. They're charging at least £110 for the meter part !


I agree its a right old rip off.

One on ebay used but might go a bit cheaper. Still more than I would pay.

Get a 13amp plug in one that has bat back up so you dont loose readings. Or an old house meter & wire it to a plug & socket.

onemanband



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 15 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

£99 incl p+p, vat and 25m of cable

camaro



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 15 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Those round plugs are generally known as "Commando" plugs, by the way... 16A or 32A I think.

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