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OtleyLad
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 2737 Location: Otley, West Yorkshire
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Rob R
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Posted: Wed May 27, 15 9:04 am Post subject: |
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OtleyLad wrote: |
Mistress Rose wrote: |
We have the problem of people coming out from the town, and most people living in the 'villages' being townspeople. They think the countryside is a playground for them and not a working environment.
Otley Lad, there are a lot of births, but over the next 20 years there will probably be a lot of deaths too. The post war baby boomers are getting into their 70s now, so they will be disappearing over the next 20 years or so. Although I can't see that decreasing the population, it is going to make a big difference. A birth rate of 1.84 is also going to long term result in fewer people too. As long as the birth rate plus immigration ends up with a population rise of less than 2 per couple, we should see fewer people. |
Until there is some sort of consensus on the number of people these islands can sustainably accommodate (population/birth control call it whatever you will) and until governments stop peddling the mantra of more growth/choice/consumption, 'nature' will continue to be squeezed out to make way for us all-consuming humans. And I say again that politicians are chicken over this issue.
So we'll continue to squabble over who can live where and what type/size/price house they can have whilst doing little or nothing to address the real challenges. |
The problem is that there are so many conflicting interest groups lobbying for different things but using population as their reasoning. The consensus is that increasing (average) affluence, access to education and birth control reduces birth rates.
You've got a green(ish) lobby that says we could feed more people(!) more sustainably if they reduced their meat consumption. On the other side we could feed more with home produced food if we ate more of it (as opposed to under utilisation of land and relying upon exports).
On this latter point it isn't even as simple as keeping 'foreigners' out as, despite being a smaller proportion of the population, they seem to eat more sustainably than us Brits. |
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Mistress Rose
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Rob R
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Ty Gwyn
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Rob R
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OtleyLad
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OtleyLad
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Rob R
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