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dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 15 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

logistics might be tricky as might a herd of strangers.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 15 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:
logistics might be tricky as might a herd of strangers.


What he said. There just aren't the people out there any longer - the ings used to be divied up into much smaller allotments, each managed by a local farmer. As numbers have dwindled, the areas under single occupancy have got bigger, helped by the advent of the need for biosecurity post-2001.

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 15 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

What period year TB testing are you on in that part of Yorkshire?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 15 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Four

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 15 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Our Parish Council have also had trouble finding anyone willing to graze the Downs. They need grazing, but until this year they couldn't find any suitable cows. They would ideally have sheep, but there are too many dogs, very few on a lead. I have suggested Soays.

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 15 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

When i was in the 4yr testing period,before a dairy farm a few miles away had a bad outbreak,that placed me by distance into a 2yr testing period then to yearly testing,cattle movements were not a problem,one could move from farm to farm or farm to mart without testing prior to movement,
Unless regs on 4yr testing have changed its strange that this cheap grazing is not taken up by other livestock farmers and even stranger that the landowners don`t run store cattle through the summer months and sell on before the winter.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 15 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

There just aren't the numbers of livestock, any longer, simple as that.

The land owners are the public, retired or dead & not in a position to buy stores. Those that are active farmers see no sense in keeping livestock to lose money - and the vegans aren't exactly falling over themselves to plant vegetables, despite what they say on the internet.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 15 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Rob R wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Rob R wrote:
Nick's right, and there's also the fact that they cost money to buy and keep in the meantime. Plus, if they aren't making money, another income has to be sought elsewhere, which either means investing money in something else or taking on outside work.

How did your idea of "meat futures" go? Could we push that harder?


It's still going, and it helps get a few more hooves on the ground.


If you have a advert for it on Facebook, I can tout it wider than I can on here...


Thanks, I'll sort something out later today.


Sorry it took so long, but it's here now.

Last edited by Rob R on Tue Sep 22, 15 8:11 am; edited 1 time in total

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 15 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

maybe not ,it told me content had expired

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 15 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ditto.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 15 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sorry, now amended.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 15 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Update; the weather has allowed us to at least start grazing this land;



but, being October, it's a lot less lush than it was. By rights we should be grazing the regrowth now, not just starting to graze it for the first time this year!

Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 15 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

BTW, today is World Food Day.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 15 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

it looks like they will take a few seasons to sort that patch,ungrazed for years by the look of it

Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 15 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:
it looks like they will take a few seasons to sort that patch,ungrazed for years by the look of it


It was set stocked in 2013, grazed lightly for a few days (the bits that weren't under water) last year but the woody growth is a bit much at this late stage. I'm going to try and graze it in July next year, if we can.

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