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Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 15 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
Nick wrote:
OtleyLad wrote:
Rob R wrote:
Well the land managers and/or the legislators decided at present, in addition to the public, either through trusts or their buying habits. I know that isn't always perfect but it works as well as it can.

Personally I'd prefer it if everyone was forced to consume more products from well managed grazing & woodlands, but it's difficult enough getting people who care about the environment to do that, never mind everyone else.


Is there any kind of labelling/branding that informs the customer?


I'm guessing free range and organic would be the closest wide spread schemes? And they're pretty poor. As always, knowing your farmer is the answer, but not practical for most.


You mean they can't be arsed. The biggest barrier to buying direct for the majority of people remains not being sufficiently bothered about it.


No I don't. Most people live in cities, or away from farms. It's not practical to get to know the farmers. Farmers markets aren't great, and farm gates are a long way away. Buying over the Internet isn't knowing your supplier.

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 15 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
Rob R wrote:
Nick wrote:
OtleyLad wrote:
Rob R wrote:
Well the land managers and/or the legislators decided at present, in addition to the public, either through trusts or their buying habits. I know that isn't always perfect but it works as well as it can.

Personally I'd prefer it if everyone was forced to consume more products from well managed grazing & woodlands, but it's difficult enough getting people who care about the environment to do that, never mind everyone else.


Is there any kind of labelling/branding that informs the customer?


I'm guessing free range and organic would be the closest wide spread schemes? And they're pretty poor. As always, knowing your farmer is the answer, but not practical for most.


You mean they can't be arsed. The biggest barrier to buying direct for the majority of people remains not being sufficiently bothered about it.


No I don't. Most people live in cities, or away from farms. It's not practical to get to know the farmers. Farmers markets aren't great, and farm gates are a long way away. Buying over the Internet isn't knowing your supplier.


The internet is a mere communication tool, you don't have to use it, but you can, without much effort or cost.

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 15 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You can, but that doesn't really mean you know your supplier.

If it does, I've seen pigs and cows in glorious green pasture looking happy and contented. Mostly on supermarket web sites.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 15 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Like I say, it's a communication tool, only works if you use it to communicate.

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 15 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you go to a proper farmers market affiliated to Farma, either the producer, or someone that knows how the food was produced should be running the stall. That is one of the rules.

Branding is a bit dubious imo. If you are willing to pay to belong to a scheme, you get the brand. Some schemes are very hot on inspections, and these are likely to be the most expensive to join, so there is a good chance that you can get just as well produced things outside them.

The best way to find produce from well managed sources is to look around. It is easy to go into a supermarket and just buy things with pretty pictures attached, but the independent butcher or greengrocer may well be able to tell you exactly where the produce comes from and how they manage their farm.

As we sometimes get people coming down from London to buy at markets down here, about 60 miles away, but with good rail connections, all be it, about once a month, it can't be that difficult to find someone who supplies from well managed farms.

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