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Slim



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Location: New England (In the US of A)
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 16 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

What if I just like to feed wild doves? Suddenly I'm not allowed to put out birdseed?

Nick



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 16 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Slim wrote:
What if I just like to feed wild doves? Suddenly I'm not allowed to put out birdseed?


It's possible you'd be causing a nuisance. How often? How many? Is the pavement and area knee deep in shit? Is it causing a noise very early in the morning or being a health hazard? Are they getting in the way of traffic, or scaring the tiny kids playing in the next garden?

You don't particularly have to like it, but yes, you could be in the wrong. It's all about levels, in reality.

Slim



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 16 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't actually like doves at all. I never thought I was in the right with my hypothetical (definitely thought the hypothetical me was being a jerk).

I was just curious where some of these lines exist. At what point are they your animals that you're responsible for, basically.

(I fully agree the owner of the chickens is responsible for keeping them off the gardener's property, and after a few neighborly warnings should have no recourse if the chickens end up in the gardener's stew pot)

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 16 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

there have been asbo's and prosecutions for feeding birds

for example

i wonder what the authorities would make of my plan to entice some of these over from norway with some spare dogfood?

Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 16 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Slim wrote:
I was just curious where some of these lines exist. At what point are they your animals that you're responsible for, basically...

English law makes much use of the word "reasonable", as interpreted by the man on the number seven bus.

chez



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 16 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The chap could get a pig for his garden. The trespassing chickens would disappear without trace.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 16 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

or the pig would be forced into working for them as a rat nest and worm excavator

back in the range war the obvious solution is that the chook keeper buys a good chicken run with high sides and a roof.

an alternative is "compensation"in the form of eggs ,even large holes in the lawn and spooked horses can be smoothed over with a few kilos of oak smoked bacon

imho most similar disputes are far more about the people 's behaviour than that of the "offending"critters.the brits can end up killing each other about a simple bit of hedge pruning

wellington womble



Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: East Midlands
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 16 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We had this problem. A neighbour has allowed her fence to fall down, and has previously complained vociferously about chickens (not mine) trespassing in her garden. I covered the gap with chicken wire and left her to stew. She has no privacy and it's butt ugly, but she declined to be responsible for it, so I got to make the choices. I am obliged to keep my stock in. Not to put up pretty, expensive fences for her garden.

I don't know whether I could have left it, as it is her fence, but we were just going away on holiday, so I wanted a quick fix with no arguments.

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