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dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 22 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hard fern
Blechnum spicant

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 22 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

oops the photo i posted was the reject rather than the crisp one that looks like the one in the id guide:lol:

hey ho, i have learnt how to name a fern

hard does make sense as the edges of the leaflet things are smooth rather than feathery

fern guide was helpful

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 22 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks for that guide Dpack. We have Harts Tongue Fern, Broad buckler fern, and a variation of it, Intermediate Polypody, Male fern, and bracken in the woods.

sgt.colon



Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Location: Just south of north.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 22 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks DPack.

It's a shame it wasn't more in the public eye back in the 70's, we might have been in a better position now. I think I only really knew about it sometime in the late 90's.

Were you trying to down a rabbit with the acorns?

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 22 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

no bunnies, the last hares and larks went when the dairy farm hay fields changed post 1968 FaM and rather than a traditional "by hand"hay cut in august a change to a for cash crop with a mower in early june

too many dogs for bunnies now, and there are few in the entire area, i cannot think of a rabbit rich place within 10 miles of my little forest
even "bunny wood" has no bunnies

thinking about it, it is one of the most bunnylite places i have known well with a history of at least a few bunnies in the past
there were a few, last one i saw, or saw sign of, was the one flushed by my foster greyhound about 30yrs ago

when i was a kid the pet hutch bunnies of pals did get visits from wild ones(more bunnyporn than watership down)
not seen any trace in a long time

not much sigh of grey squizzers either, 25 yrs ago there were quite a few at the top of the clough

plenty of scope for raptors and owls on the vertical bits

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 22 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rabbits have reduced a lot over the last 20 years since we had the woods. I think there have been several diseases; myxy and a hemorrhagic disease which has virtually wiped them out. We have seen a few this year after virtually no sightings for years. Raptors have increased over that time as well. We do get hares though. As for grey squirrels, we still have too many of them. They fight back with raptors, unlike rabbits.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 22 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the auger awaits a proper sharpening and the poison is made for the job, it even has it's own squirter to fill the holes

that will be a spring mission, if i plan it well i might do a couple of days with a sly hammock bivvy(slopes are fine if you have trees and a hammock)
moider a few misplaced things, make some notes and take some hi res snaps
as it seems to be working, recording how it was done and what stage it is at might help those with similar opportunities or problems

getting permissions to re wildwood "wasteland" is a nightmare and can be counterproductive if somebody realizes they "own" some bit of land that has a potential"value"

25 fruit trees 3 yrs or so and several hundred hours of diplomacy etc
another 3 acres of mixed forest, a few days planning and 3 hrs chucking stuff in the rain

vector for seeds is queen(so is poison if required)

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 23 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Someone was asking about which trees to put in a similar bit of land they owned on a FB group I belong to, so suggested your seed lobbing Dpack. That way the trees grow where they are happy.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 23 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dont ask just do it

my little forest is heading for a bit over 10 acres, if i include the "groves" in random places, i have rather special maths skills but basics baffle me

would ten acres be about 2% of what they have managed?

if it is and one silly bloke can do it for no money etc

other inhabitants of the ds village have planted, restored and maintained more acres than me

if a few of us can manage that sort of thing as individuals, there must be reasons for "official" schemes being so incompetent

re the FB folk and their new planting, big pockets and handbags(maybe a 100 litre bergan centurion for planned collections) and keen eyes for collecting whatever, wherever and whenever you can to give diversity and genetic resilience.

boots on soil with a poking thing is a good way to know more about what might colonize each bit and if that bit needs nanny plants to give nurture to the next stage

what works might be surprising, diversity can be reinforced once you find out what is alive after the first decade or so

if you can get them to ask/show and tell, i am happy to answer about how this one has progressed and what might work for their patch

might work is better than might not work if they plan on doing it properly

it took me 2 decades to start to work out how to do it, maybe i can save them a bit of time after another 3 more

i recon it is similar to "rewilding" but at least a thousand times faster and it is likely to be more diverse and resilient than what grows from "legacy" flora alone
legacy flora was a survivor, so far, in a nearby place which might be quite different to the new place to be wooded and to future conditions

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 23 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That article isn't completely true. I have found the Forestry Commission extremely helpful about natural regeneration. We use it almost exclusively in our wood; the only planting in the last 10 years has been transplants from our own garden (2 miles away) and our sons (15 miles away). I am hoping one day to get round to getting cuttings or seeds from a local wood (about 3 miles) of wild service trees, so ensure they have at least 2 local homes.

Over the 20 years we have been working our wood, the paperwork has become less and less about explaining what we will do/are doing and filling in columns of figures. There is a section for felling for natural regeneration now, but haven't filled in a grant application for management lately, so don't know how that is going to view it.

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