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tai haku



Joined: 17 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 11:47 am    Post subject: just "did" my first cock  Reply with quote    

We got 4 cocks and 3 hens from our first hatch of chooks earlier in the year and the time came to deal with that lack of balance. Not a pleasant experience and the post-death spasming freaked me out even though I was expecting it but I feel like I did right by the bird, quick and painless.

It's going to take a long time before I get half-decent at the processing side though. Took an age!

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Killing and processing are both much easier if you watch someone else do it first

Chez



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I twist a bit of string or cable tie around their ankles and hang them up and walk away for ten or fifteen minutes right after I've done it. The twitching still freaks me out.

Well done though - you'd be a bit weird if you enjoyed it.

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Chez wrote:
you'd be a bit weird if you enjoyed it.


Just cos he didn't enjoy doesn't mean he's not weird...

Pilsbury



Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 5645
Location: East london/Essex
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Thing is people always say you have to enjoy your job, the you start thinking about slaughtermen, undertakers and crem technitions in a whole different way....

Well done on doing your first, im sure it will get quicker as you do more.

Chez



Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Chez wrote:
you'd be a bit weird if you enjoyed it.


Just cos he didn't enjoy doesn't mean he's not weird...


I think we all deserve gold stars for avoiding the mandatory 'enjoying doing a cock not making you weird' quips.

tahir



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 44144
Location: Essex
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Chez wrote:
I think we all deserve gold stars for avoiding the mandatory 'enjoying doing a cock not making you weird' quips.


Yup, we seem to have grown up a bit. Back in the day...

12Bore



Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 9088
Location: Paddling in the Mersey
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

tahir wrote:
Chez wrote:
I think we all deserve gold stars for avoiding the mandatory 'enjoying doing a cock not making you weird' quips.


Yup, we seem to have grown up a bit. Back in the day...

It won't last...

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 34295
Location: yes
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 14 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

the twitching/flapping/leaking thing is rather nasty to watch and can make one wonder if the job was thoroughly done.i dont like it at all .

a pull and twist that separates the spinal chord from the medulla oblongata does minimize it ,direct attack to medulla with a heavy blade must be very precise but totally avoids the flapping as the bird just goes limp but it does bleed out quite rapidly which can be rather nasty to see .

somewhere in the archives there are several threads covering the subject ,iirc the broomstick method was decided upon as kind,reliable,reasonably easy to do well and not too horrible to carry out .

the loop on the legs for the recently dispatched and leave it for a little while is an option.

i recon the best method is whatever you feel you can use to give a kind death even if it seems a bit messy to look at

what looks fairly tidy might not actually be the kindest way.(such as the industrial electrocution stunning/bleed out methods )

Katieowl



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 4317
Location: West Wales
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 14 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Chez wrote:
tahir wrote:
Chez wrote:
you'd be a bit weird if you enjoyed it.


Just cos he didn't enjoy doesn't mean he's not weird...


I think we all deserve gold stars for avoiding the mandatory 'enjoying doing a cock not making you weird' quips.


And I only clicked on this to ENJOY the quips!!! LOL


Kate

Chickpea



Joined: 05 Nov 2004
Posts: 208
Location: Buckinghamshire
PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 14 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Is it illegal to put a pellet through the brain of a bird? When I had to dispatch one of mine many years ago, I used the high powered air rifle and it was instant.

Woo



Joined: 19 Sep 2011
Posts: 780
Location: Mayenne, Pays de Loire
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 15 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I know this is an old post, but I've not been around much lately.
I had to resort to an air gun PB to finish off a duck who didn't want to die. He was a big boy with a rubber neck and I just couldn't get him to stop blinking disdainfully at me! it was quick and I will do it again as required for the ducks rather than pulling for what felt like forever.

I don't know if it is permitted in England though. I'm in France and it seem like anything goes! Bah Oui!

Chez



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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 15 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

I hate doing ducks. They have a whole Marie-Antoinette thing going on and seem to *stare* right at you for ages afterwards, even if the head is actually detached. The last ones I had to do last year, Rusticwood swooped in in his Superman pants and did. I'm going to do a batch early on and send them to someone else to do for me, this year - I do like to eat duck, but they are even worse than rabbits for me, killing-wise.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 15 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

if i ever have to deal with a "rapist rooster"again it will be a head shot assassination or grannie's coathanger carving knife combo kill.
some birds are far too tough in a commando rather than a kitchen sense to get less than industrial on their fluffy little souls

Bodger



Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13500

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 15 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote    

Funnily enough, this evening I came across an 'also ran' knocking seven shades of you know what, out of a young cock that I want to put in the breeding pen. I quickly grabbed hold of the former and placed him in a small shed ready for me to bump off in the morning. He's a biggish boy but I'll pull his neck in a jiffy and he'll be dead. I wont enjoy it but then again, I wont find it that distasteful. I will however find him very tasty when Karen makes him into a chicken with tarragon pie.

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