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boff



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 1:39 pm    Post subject: need help with bread making Reply with quote
    

Need some help. My partner and I work odd shift patterns and our plan of making/baking our own bread is going to pot! We would like to make a largish batch of dough in one go rather than every day. Can anyone advise me on freezing dough prior to baking ? Will it rise again when thawed ? Any suggestions?

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Good question Boff, we've been making bread for a few months now and I've often wondered whether you can freeze dough and if so at which stage.

Come on peeps...

Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Can this be moved to the Recipes board, it might catch more people's eye there.

Have never frozen dough but I often freeze rolls or baguettes very lightly-part baked so that I can take a couple out for soup etc. They defrost pretty quickly, but if you want to make sandwiches in the morning with them you should be able to just take them out the evening before.

I don't see why a full size loaf wouldn't respond quite well to this treatment, after all, many commercial bakeries do it. The only downside would be that a part baked loaf has a bigger volume than some knocked back dough. On the other hand it can go straight in to the oven from the freezer.

joanne



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes you can quite successfully if you freeze the dough at the second rising point i.e freeze it at the same time you would put it in the oven

Then when you want to cook the bread - take it out of the freezer and put it straight into the oven frozen

Thats what I did at Christmas when I made a huge batch of rolls in preparation for boxing day

Joanne

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The way I do it is to make a large batch (~1Kg) and take it though the first rise. Then I knock it all back, divide up into whatever size batches I want, wrap it in cling-film and freeze.
When I want to bake it, I take it out of the freezer a day in advance and leave it to de-frost and proove in the fridge then give it 20 minutes or so on the tray out of the fridge while the oven warms up.

No real difference in quality, just a little planning needed.

boff



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Wow! that was quick! Guess we've got a lot of "try it and see" to do now. Any ideas on what NOT to do, I'm ashamed to say I'm not that good in the kitchen

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks guys, I'll have to tell the missus. whereabouts in essex are you from Boff? (there's a few of us on here)

Northern_Lad



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Typical - all the need in the south east and all the brains up in the North West.

On the do not front:
Don't put the dough in a solid container with a tight lid as when it prooves again it won't have enough room to grow.

I also bake the 'cold' dough at a slightly lower temperature so it cooks more evenly throughout.

cab



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Boff, you could give in and buy a bread machine? Put the stuff in, set the timer, and have bread later?

boff



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
Thanks guys, I'll have to tell the missus. whereabouts in essex are you from Boff? (there's a few of us on here)


Wivenhoe, further north than you.

As for the bread maker - we have one collecting dust! After all we have hands! Secretly, I take out my frustrations of the day on the dough - very calming I find.....

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

boff wrote:
Wivenhoe, further north than you.


That's a long way from me.

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

But near Martin Newell, I believe.

boff



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's a long way from me.[/quote]

Just up the A12, a nats past Colchester thats all. nano seconds in a tardis

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I know wivenhoe - went to colchester uni!

I was wondering about this, as our breadmaker bread doesn't keep very well, and when I have packed lunches, I end up with stale bread.

I'll have a go, when the hot cross buns are finished (wonder if you could do it with them too?)

Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 05 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wellington womble wrote:
I'll have a go, when the hot cross buns are finished (wonder if you could do it with them too?)


Hot cross buns freeze brilliantly and you can just defrost them and eat them like that, or toast them of course.

Hoping to make some hot cross buns tomorrow.

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