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misty07



Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Posts: 2223
Location: swindon wiltshire
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 12 1:01 pm    Post subject: just found this Reply with quote
    

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/local/9589589._I_ll_shoot_next_time___sheep_farmer_warns_dog_owners/
this is our farmer friend who had loads of trouble with getting dogs on his land. the bloke in picture is just his brother in law.

Melli-Jane



Joined: 09 Mar 2011
Posts: 272
Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 12 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

it must be gutting. We have a footpath that runs across half of our property and we actually fenced it off so that dog walkers can enjoy it.
There are 3 regular couples that walk and two are brilliant, the third is a nuisance. This woman, who is a school teacher, has a staff x and a lurcher. they are never on the lead and she has no control over them, they chase our neighbours sheep and last week they got through our fence and chased a fox through our sheep. when the OH confronted her he got a mouthful of obscene abuse and told that it was the f'ing countryside and she could do what she wanted! The OH actually had his airgun with him at the time as he was shooting rabbits on the other side of the field, and threatened that he would shoot the dog. Her dog has already worried and killed one of our ducks. Apparently she now only comes through at 5am but still lets the dogs run loose. We and our neighbours have put signs up as they are lambing but this is going to have a nasty end if she carries on (not that my OH would ever shoot a dog, and certainly not with an airgun! but our neighbour lost lambs last year so has no patience this year), the courts beckon if we can work out where she lives.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 45377
Location: yes
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 12 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

my inclination would be shoot the owner and retrain the dog

but that is considered wrong ,

so ,load as for deer and shame the culprit if they complain and shame if they dont

horrid ,

misty07



Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Posts: 2223
Location: swindon wiltshire
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 12 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Melli-Jane wrote:
it must be gutting. We have a footpath that runs across half of our property and we actually fenced it off so that dog walkers can enjoy it.
There are 3 regular couples that walk and two are brilliant, the third is a nuisance. This woman, who is a school teacher, has a staff x and a lurcher. they are never on the lead and she has no control over them, they chase our neighbours sheep and last week they got through our fence and chased a fox through our sheep. when the OH confronted her he got a mouthful of obscene abuse and told that it was the f'ing countryside and she could do what she wanted! The OH actually had his airgun with him at the time as he was shooting rabbits on the other side of the field, and threatened that he would shoot the dog. Her dog has already worried and killed one of our ducks. Apparently she now only comes through at 5am but still lets the dogs run loose. We and our neighbours have put signs up as they are lambing but this is going to have a nasty end if she carries on (not that my OH would ever shoot a dog, and certainly not with an airgun! but our neighbour lost lambs last year so has no patience this year), the courts beckon if we can work out where she lives.

ought to take a dog for a walk along same route as her for a few weeks and each time get further to the address nothing wrong with walking dogs cant be accused of stalking if cannot be seen

Portland_Jon



Joined: 21 Jan 2009
Posts: 6
Location: Portland, Dorset, UK
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 12 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We had lots of dog attacks on our sheep so we bought four alpacas. They protect the flock and kill dogs. The one attack that I saw was a staffy and the alpacas pushed the sheep into a corner and led the dog away. They goad the dog into chasing them to tire it out then kick it to death. On this occasion I saved the dog by running it over with the quad bike. The owner was beside herself and so apologetic. I would have no hesitation in shooting even my own dog if it was worrying the sheep.

Jon

www.fancysfarm.co.uk

Nature'sgrafter



Joined: 22 Feb 2012
Posts: 527
Location: Sanday , Orkney
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 12 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I grew up in a small village near a farm the owner a mr spencer warned a dog walker that the field they walk through has sheep in lamb in it and that the dog should be on a lead any sign that it is distressing the sheep and he will shoot the dog. He promptly received a torrent of abuse along the lines that this is a public footpath and i'll do as i want . To which the dog owner let the dog off the lead which promptly ran straight at the sheep so mr spencer shot it smiled and told the owner not to worry as he was just going to phone the police to let them Know what has happened. the police actually came out to asses the situation then told the dog owner off for allowing his dog to cause distress to the sheep and asked mr spencer if he would like the mater taken further.
The moral is that YOU DO have the right and rural police forces will support you if you do protect your livelihood.

Castle Farm



Joined: 17 Sep 2008
Posts: 457
Location: Powys/Hereford Border.Near Hay-on-Wye
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 12 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Am I allowed to shoot Foxhounds ?

baldybloke



Joined: 24 May 2008
Posts: 1388
Location: Wiltshire
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 12 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Name and shame in the local Parish magazine, if there is one. Put wanted posters up around the village with pictures of her dogs and the crimes they are accused of. She will soon get the message.

sueshells



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 690
Location: North Bucks
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 12 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I just don't understand dog owners who are willing to risk their pets' lives. I find some of the stories in this thread quite sickening - and that is from both sides of the story. My dog is well behaved, will walk to heel off the lead and is not inclined to chase stock but I would never let her off the lead near sheep or any other animals as I wouldn't want there to be any chance of a "misunderstanding" which might result in her death.

Lorrainelovesplants



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 12 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We live on a holding and have a dog. He is fine with our chickens and the sheep, but we NEVER walk him off the lead except at the beach. He is a dog, we are responsible. End of story.
I would have no worries at all shooting a dog that worried my stock, and I would prosecute the owner.

wildfoodie



Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 2169

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 12 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

what dpack said.
The owners need shooting.
Having said that we are having to get used to a well trained but now elderly and selectively deaf dog who has started going her own sweet way on walks....
the puppy by contrast is brilliant - she actually comes back to us when a strange animal comes into view dog or sheep or cow and walks to heel waiting for a command to go off again... But she will chase bunnies and crows on sight.

Melli-Jane



Joined: 09 Mar 2011
Posts: 272
Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 12 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

thanks - it's so frustrating because the first thing we did was think, right, we have a footpath running down one side, so lets make life easier for everyone and put a good fence up (stock, barbed wire and electric!) - our stock is protected and they can enjoy the footpath. we've made it twice as wide as we needed to and were even going to put some logs for sitting on in one place and an honesty box for the eggs...but why bother?
what upsets me most is that this woman is apparently a school teacher - she is a civil servant and supposed to lead by example...
haven't seen her for a week but do intend to watch where she goes, I know roughly where she lives, just need to see her walk down the road to see what house she goes into.
I'm turning my goats and kids out at the weekend if it stays nice, and god help her if I catch her dogs near them off the lead PS. if we had a shotgun, we would shoot them.

12Bore



Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 9089
Location: Paddling in the Mersey
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 12 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-17457088

Kenworth



Joined: 04 Apr 2011
Posts: 855
Location: Michigan
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 12 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

In the area of the US I live in, this issue would never even come up. If a dog is worrying livestock, the livestock owner is well within his rights to protect his livestock.

Pet owners can be (and have been) fined for allowing their animals to harass livestock.

Mutton



Joined: 09 May 2009
Posts: 1508

PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 12 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

One of the Yahoo lifestock groups (not been on it for a while, forgotten the name) anyway in the US, someone had one of the big breeds of goats with horns. Frightful row in the middle of the night in the small paddock out the back of the house. They rush out with guns thinking "we'll be too late".
The ongoing row was the large billy goat trying to scrape off the dog he'd got impaled on his horns.

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