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pink bouncy



Joined: 14 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 12 9:41 pm    Post subject: Dispatching turkeys. Advice please Reply with quote
    

I'm doing the turkeys at the moment, as I have for several years now but am getting a bit fed up with being bashed by wings or getting them bruised or dislocated.

I have tried holding them tightly, holding them loosely, holding then pinned against their bodies and even a killing cone. That caused damaged breast and wings from the small amount of movement the bird could make in the cone. Other methods cause bruising, poor bleeding (either on the bird or on me and often both) or dislocated wings.

I kill with percussion (blow to the head or air gun pellet in brain) followed by cutting the throat to bleed.

Anyone know of a reliable and less flappy method please?

Cathryn



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
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Location: Ceredigion
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 12 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Three graduated buckets with the bottoms cut out rather than a metal killing cone. Apparently they bruised a lot less using this.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Before I kill each turkey. I have a noose made of bailer twine suspended from the rafters of a shed and immediately after killing, I place the turkeys feet in the noose, tighten it and let the turkey dangle head down until the bird has stopped flapping. You obviously have to make sure that the turkey can't come into contact with any solid object while its still flapping and once its still, I use the same set up for plucking the turkey.

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I do similar to Bodger but hold the bird at arms length till the main flapping is over. It does require quite a bit of strength with the bigger birds. On the monster sized ones I hold them closer with their backs to me.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You're younger and stronger than me but just maybe, I'm more cunning than you. I can't remember the last time that I had to wrestle with a chick. Or is that just 'Just Me'?

Happy Christmas to you and yours Richie.

Woodburner



Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Location: Essex
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Could you maybe rig up a bar at near shoulder height so you could rest your hand on it with the turkey at arm's length?
I only do chickens, but I use a similar method to Bodger, only I have an S hook suspended from a beam, and use a loop of bailer twine on the feet (like a lark's head knot) and put the other end of the loop over the hook.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

SOme people bleed birds afte they've been killed but I wonder if its really necessary? if you cut their throat when they're still flapping, then thats when blood gets spattered about all over the place.
As long as the bird is suspended head downwards, then gravity will ensure that the blood pools in the head and neck area. Its just a thought and while I've done it both ways, the latter method is the one that I tend to use these days.
If you're killing birds in warmer weather, then then not cutting necks also helps in keeping flies away and reduces the problem of getting the carcasses fly blown.

pink bouncy



Joined: 14 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thank you, that was most helpful.

I have done it lots of different ways over the years, changing mostly to improve on speed of dispatch or to stun the bird before killing it. It has never occurred to me to simply allow it to flap.

I have three left to deal with tonight so I'll give it a try.

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

pink bouncy wrote:
to stun the bird before killing it.


Are you allowed to do that without a licence?

Bodger



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

By stun, maybe you tell the turkey what you're going to do to it before you actually do it.

Woodburner



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

IIRC stunning by a blow to the back of the skull is legal. I am not so certain as to swear it is so tho.

eta (without a licence) for poultry, and manually, not electric or captive bolt.

pink bouncy



Joined: 14 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

RichardW wrote:
pink bouncy wrote:
to stun the bird before killing it.


Are you allowed to do that without a licence?


Justme? Is that you?

RichardW



Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I thought everyone knew.

pink bouncy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 12 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I didn't but I know you have a legendary knowledge of the rules and regs. I used to be a member of ACL about a million years ago.

Melli-Jane



Joined: 09 Mar 2011
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Location: East Sussex
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 12 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hi - we place the turkey in an inverted traffic cone with the end removed, the bird is stunned with a captive bolt (9 times out of 10 it kills them), we then check the eye for reflex to ensure correct stun and cut the throat through carotid arteryand jugular vein to bleed. The cone stops the flapping, I tend to hold the feet to stop the legs reflexing into the cone and damaging them. I've not had any problems with bruising or damage this way.

The legal requirement is a two stage process stun and then bleed. You can use a captive bolt without a licence.

HSA have some useful advice on their website - or I use this for guidance https://www.hsa.org.uk/Resources/Publications/General/CPK%20June09%20sample_Layout%201.pdf[/url]

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