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henchard



Joined: 23 Aug 2012
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Location: Carmarthenshire
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 15 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
Surely there must be a steel fabricator in your area who can give you a quote on the size building you need in kit form.


The quotes for my shed from a steel fabricator were around double the cost of building it myself in timber. My 12 x 5m shed (above) cost just over 2K including the groundwork.

All steel frames now have to have a CE mark I believe so the fabricator has to be able to do this.

https://www.bmtrada.com/en-gb/certification/product-certification/ce-marking/structural-steel-ce-marking

gregotyn



Joined: 24 Jun 2010
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Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 15 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't know where you are based, but one of my customers makes and another erects steel framed buildings, They are based in West Shropshire. They don't worry how far they have to go, but you would have to have the base area ready. The erector is currently in S. Devon putting one up. But there will be such folks available wherever you are anyway, and they will do as much or as little as you want-just the frame, or frame and roof, or the whole job footings included.

Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Jumping on the bandwagon of opportunism
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't have the knowledge to ask a local company to fabricate me a frame. There's plenty of companies that make off the peg frames and buildings and a few local ones I'll go an see if I go the whole building route.

I'm just trying to understand what options there are and hopefully get an idea of prices. On that note, thanks Rob, that's the sort of thing I was after.

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4562
Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

To be honest,what knowledge do you need?
Other than to ask,How much to fabricate a shed so and so size.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 45374
Location: yes
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

like any good trades firms ,shed makers should be happy to show you "one they made earlier" .
having a look will give you a good idea of their build standards even as a non expert it is easy to see if welds look tidy ,posts are vertical ,corners square and if it looks strong,pretty or ugly etc etc .

do the doors still fit after a few months is a fairly good test of a structure

alison
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

How much of a rush are you in.

If not I would go down to the Royal Cornwall show in the Summer, and have a look round there to get started. They have some permanent exhibits there. I would also look at the MVF pin board.

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
I'm just trying to understand what options there are and hopefully get an idea of prices. On that note, thanks Rob, that's the sort of thing I was after.


You're welcome.

I favour the https://www.farmplus.co.uk/ buildings, if I could afford one, we'd have one.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the cow kennels look like very nice winter quarters

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Them cow kennels came very popular in the 60`s when dairy herds started expanding,
They looked very smart when erected,
But not so 20yrs later.

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
Them cow kennels came very popular in the 60`s when dairy herds started expanding,
They looked very smart when erected,
But not so 20yrs later.


Aye, but sadly they don't make Crendons any more

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4562
Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Are Atcost still going,not noticed them around either?

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No, but plenty of them around, still. The neighbour has one, and the other neighbour has a single leg of one up (not quite sure why). We've got two Crendons.

Ty Gwyn



Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Your posh up in Yorkshire with 2 Crendons,lol.

Rob R



Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 15 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It runs in the family, my dad used to have two, 12 bays in total, 40ft span...

gregotyn



Joined: 24 Jun 2010
Posts: 2201
Location: Llanfyllin area
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 15 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You don't need the knowledge, the fabricator will tell you all you need to know about the building, if you tell him the size you want and the type of cladding. He will know far the uprights have to be in the ground for the height you want, and the pitch of the roof you need for the snow to fall off, not in, and what sizes of steel he needs to put in to stop it blowing over. There are 3 men local to me and all are busy, and as far as I know are BS qualified- these boys know their game. And they are all keen to help-part of the service-why?they want your business!

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