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Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Five hundred years of being a fool. Nothing's changed.


Troll. Stop feeding. He'll stop frothing.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
Rob,
I watched the remainder of Climate by numbers,very interesting indeed,
But one of the calculations made by the 2nd presenter based on Kreager in the South African gold fields,when working out the value of gold in the area,just did`nt add up for me,
If that had been working out the value of coal in the under lying land with varying horizontal seams,it was feasible,
But with most metal minerals,the lodes are varying vertical with barren ground between,and only following the course of the lode could a fairly accurate value be based on the land.

What also bug`s me is,of these climate change scientists given the data they have at hand,proven in the link,and numerous links following,20 -30 years ago they were predicting a return to the Ice Age,then all of a sudden it was the Ozone layer,Green House gases,Global Warming and now Climate Change.
The reason it is now called climate change instead of global warming is the publics inability (as has been shown here on this thread) to believe the average global temperature is rising. But there is an increase in 'freak' weather events, hence the name change. Yes twenty or thirty years ago we where talking about triggering a new ice age. That is still possible. It has nothing to do with average temperature rises directly, but the increase of fresh water mixing with the sea water. This will (as has happened in the past, proved by ice core samples) switch off the Gulf stream that keeps our climate mild. See shutdown of thermohaline circulation. So in answer to your doubts they are all true. The planet is warming. The climate is changing. & we could all still freeze our knackers off if we dont wise up.

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Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jamanda wrote:
Ty Gwyn wrote:
The trouble is,there are a lot of scientists who do not agree with each other,
What about the climate change scientists ship that got stuck in the ice not long back,similar to Mr Scott,
Why is the biggest member of the EU pumping out so much carbon?
Surely its not because they have vast numbers of Wind Turbines so they can balance their carbon books.
Now Japan ,the site of the Kyoto agreement is changing back to coal,no mention of sustainable energy,

And their both advanced countries.


97% of scientists do agree with each other. Scientists are not the politicians who make the decisions.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
& no doubt the majority of the 3% are employed or funded by the industries responsible for said. Big industry is very good at buying yes men. & they don't come any bigger than the oil, gas & coal industries.

Falstaff



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tavascarow wrote:
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...... The reason it is now called climate change instead of global warming is the publics inability (as has been shown here on this thread) to believe the average global temperature is rising. But there is an increase in 'freak' weather events, hence the name change. ............

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Thanks for that Tc- I have wondered for a while why they dropped "Global warming"
Your explanation makes perfect sense

Now they don't even have to prove any warming !

So where does that leave the "Warming is consequential upon CO2 levels " argument ?

vegplot



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Falstaff wrote:

So where does that leave the "Warming is consequential upon CO2 levels " argument ?


That's called science. You know, the stuff that based on measurable repeatable evidence.

You could do the experiment yourself with the right equipment.

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Kippers don't believe in science. They, generally, prefer, dogma and frothing. They're Sayers of no, not askers of how or why.

Falstaff



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
Kippers don't believe in science. They, generally, prefer, dogma and frothing. They're Sayers of no, not askers of how or why.


I presume that is aimed at me ?

What a load of dross !

You're actually behaving like quite a significant bully aren't you ?

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes !

No !

Falstaff



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
Yes !

No !


How do YOU classify you're behaviour then ?

vegplot



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lock yourself in an airtight box. As the CO2 levels rise I can guarantee so will the temperature. But don't take my word for it.

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I don't !

STOP being a bell end !

Falstaff



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
I don't !

STOP being a bell end !
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No Nick, I don't suppose you do !

I don't suppose you ever even consider that you might just come over as a bit of a boor and a bully.

I have to say that I was amazed when Chez said something a few weeks ago and you grabbed it and stuck it in your "sig" straight away :-

“……Broadening Chez's arse and Chris' Old mind….”

How do you think those two feel when they see your crassness highlighted every time they come across one of your posts ?

No Nick YOU Stop being a "Bell-end" [/b]

jamanda
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

<Official hat >

Simmer down boys.

<Official hat/>

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Dunno. Ask them.

https://forum.downsizer.net/viewtopic.php?p=1426195#1426195

Having it as a .sig was Jamanda's idea.

jamanda
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 15 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Might have known it was all my fault

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