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Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 20 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Could well be. Ours in the woods often go for bumble bees nests and once went for a hornets nest that was low down. Not sure who won that encounter though.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 20 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Well I wouldn't be backing the badgers.

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 20 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

im not sure about that, they are mostly very hairy with only a few bits like noses poking out of the armour.

they are pretty hard un all.

having seen a naked chap up a cliff, with no ropes, stealing from african bees i recon badger versus hornets could be a badger win on a knockout with a few lumps as penance

badgers are fun if a bit edgy up close, i would not want to upset one

my first close encounter was in a very dark place even though my eyes had adjusted, i was comfy on a slope in cover with my mouth open to hear better...

then the rummaging got closer, then the shuffling and snuffling got louder, then something sounded like a pickled onion eating contest within reach

i did not move or make a sound above relaxed heartbeat and slow breathing
i was a tad concerned that "something" was very close, it was not what i was hunting (they are easy)but it did sound capable of being a problem

after a while it stopped and moved on, when i checked the ground later i had been a couple of feet from quite a big un that had been eating bluebell bulbs and it either ignored me or did not know i was there.

another time a young one stole my bacon butty that i had saved for breakfast for me and princess ki el bahara, we were snoozing and wakened to a black and white face with a bacon sarnie in it inches away from my face, i tried not to giggle and ki tried to be invisible under her sleeping bag as she knew when to be discrete
that one was a downsizer badger who decided i was probably safe especially as i had decided to not pitch up in the sett so as not to disturb them

watching them from a distance with a decent night vis rig is ace.

i like badgers and am fairly convinced by the evidence that they are not the vector to target regarding bovine tb

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 20 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My first attempt at badger watching ended up with me falling down a badger hole. It was when I was a teenager and had been taken out badger watching by a so called 'expert' from a Guide camp. There were several of us, and she insisted on no torches, even though we were walking through a wood. We had given up as no sight not sound of badgers, and we were walking back, still with no lights, when suddenly the ground wasn't there any more and I was down a badger hole. Luckily any badgers decided that retreat was in order with stray humans coming from above, so apart from bruises, I was all right.

We very rarely see the badgers, but do see evidence of their presence both in the digging, badger trails and latrines. In fact we had to divert a deer fence to avoid the track between an outlier sett, usually used in spring/summer, and their latrine. Our theory is that when the cubs are in the main sett, some of the older males are either thrown out or leave because the kids are too noisy, and that is when they use the outliers.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 20 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Great tales there DPack.

MR, I've felt their pain.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 20 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

a few hints re nocturnal critter watching.

get in position in a comfortable manner in daylight if possible, if after dark very stealthily(see blind man stick), comfy matters and is part of stealth

many places the ambient light will be adequate after about 1/2 an hour for your eyes to adjust.
big hole binoculars can help

use the soundscape, do not add more than you need to it(see stealth)

if you must use a torch a tiny led with red and one with blue is ideal, blue looks like natural light to observers while moving and once your eyes have adjusted to low light the red one wont mess too much with that if you need to see something
ps close one eye whenever using a torch, that way you retain at least 50% night vision
better still learn to work in darkness(see blind man stick, things on strings etc)

playing in daylight with a blindfold is a steep and funny learning curve



night vis kit opens up a whole new world, my gen 4 cobra night sight is amazing, ambient light is usually enough but it has an adjustable IR tac light which can subtly illuminate a target or floodlight a 5 acre field
on a weapon tis ace, handheld tis very ace for wildlife watching

much uk wildlife is nocturnal, i would quite like gen 5 goggles but i have what i have

ps
blind man stick can be cane or staff, staff is good as it is a third leg and every ready handrail as well as a feeler

stealth includes no washing powder, toothpaste and similar stuff as well as silence in clothing, kit and movement, tread lightly but securely and make every step deliberate, take time, stealth and speed is difficult.
dont focus on the target, focus on a convenient position. some things "feel" the attention

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 20 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

here we go again, rat

i have bacon, i have cheese, i have a fenn trap

it has been a wee while rat free, i did hear the words nest and babies from the builders over the back and thought it was a bit late for birds.

i guess they may have disturbed it when they laid the parking area tarmac on thursday, i heard it last night under the shed but eyeballed it this morning

afaik it is one female but.....

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 20 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Need to get rid of it or persuade it to go back from whence it came double quick, or it will upset the Sammisons again.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 20 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

this one is clever, a chink of key turning=gone, it can dine from a dangeroos table and so far has evaded hound or big screwdriver,
however, the amount of Camembert it is eating might well do for it via any of a variety of obesity related morbidities

i need to up my game with this one, perhaps two traps at the holes of the box of doom so it has to cross them rather than gently nibble fine foods off the treadle and putting the bait in the middle will get it

it has got to go

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 20 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, definitely. Apart from upsetting the Sammisons, the last thing you want is a clever rat breeding.

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 20 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i wonder what it will do with peanut butter?

maybe i should make it a full elvis in the middle for when i am brave enough to set them as a pair.

once bitten, never again

not my first or last broken finger but getting one out of a fenn was not fun.

one needs care, two is a bit edgy

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 20 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ps i am getting to know its ways and demeanour quite well

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 20 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

first insight is this is a clever and skilled one, last night it was levitating unless it was eating peanut butter with a long spoon

i am very loathed to give it indigestion but a war crime does have some appeal and perhaps practical merit.

sgt.colon



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 20 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'm sure you'll enjoy the battle of wits DPack and that you'll get your quarry in the end.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 20 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the clack sounded rather metallic, it was.

this one is clever

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