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lassemista



Joined: 28 Sep 2006
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Location: suffolk
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 08 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I am trying hard to persuade OH of merits of having a couple of weaners. Children think it is a great idea - OH thinks I don't give the children enough attention as it is . Ironically I have the room on piece of "lawn" not used for anything else - just needs mowing all the time.
Like Bebo getting them here would be a bit of an issue - and I'm anything but a deserving cause.
I'll get back to you if any success with his lordship
Andrea.

AnneandMike



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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Location: Over the hill and soon to be far away
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 08 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

lassemista wrote:
I am trying hard to persuade OH of merits of having a couple of weaners. Children think it is a great idea - OH thinks I don't give the children enough attention as it is .


The pigs will give the children enough attention - and vice versa. Sounds like you will be able to put your feet up.

pink bouncy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 08 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

How bizzarre Nick. A fantastic offer like that and nobody has taken you up on it? Really??

I haven't got pigs yet because I haven't spoken to the farmer using the field next to the little orchard I have allocated for them yet. I'll have to cross said field with them on the way in and on the way out a few months later so it's probably polite to run it past him first.

Unfortunately North Yorkshire (near Whitby) is a teeny bit far isn't it?

Nick



Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 08 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

With planning, no. I'm driving that way very soon. I need to sort out the transport regs, but you ask your farmer, I'll check the diary. Current market prices are pitiful, and the homes unknown, and my limit was reached a while ago, so if I can spread the habit, I'd love to.

pink bouncy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 08 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Er, er, er..... Wooooooooooooo



By Gum! That's a surprise Nick! I'll have to pull my finger out and get a few things sorted in a hurry but if its possible I'd be over the moon!!!

Yay!

lassemista



Joined: 28 Sep 2006
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Location: suffolk
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 08 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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The pigs will give the children enough attention - and vice versa. Sounds like you will be able to put your feet up.

I showed this to OH - he humphed
Andrea.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 08 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

lassemista wrote:
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The pigs will give the children enough attention - and vice versa. Sounds like you will be able to put your feet up.

I showed this to OH - he humphed
Andrea.


If that were true, pig farmers would do childcare as a sideline (or rear pigs as a sideline... )

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 08 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Nick wrote:
sean wrote:
Nick wrote:
Well, my limit is, like many a poor boy, my wife's tolerance. She's limited me to a strict 8.


I'm intrigued by this, how do you (or your wife in this case) arrive at a specific number of pigs as reasonable? I can see 'Yes you can keep pigs.' or 'No, you're not having pigs.' Why eight though?


Well, we had two, one of whom had a litter of 8. So, last autumn, and into the winter, we had 2+8 (+1 boar, that she bought). And when I am away, which might be 2/3/4 nights a week, she has to get up, and feed them, possibly in the dark and wet, before getting the kids to school and going to work herself. She tolerated this. Just.

This time, I have far more piglets, but she found 8 piglets just acceptable, so the limit is 8.

Please, DON'T bother explaining to me that 4 or 8 or 11 or 23 is the same amount of work to feed each day (open sack, tip sack, check water). We are dealing with female logic here.


What you need is a pig au pair, perhaps a young Danish lady?

Nick



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 08 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:

What you need is a pig au pair, perhaps a young Danish lady?


Indeed, then I could ditch the wife.

lassemista



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 08 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I may be making some progress, so can I clarify 1 or 2 things.
Pigs need:-
Fenced enclosure - is about 10 X 15 m enough for 2 weaners to rear for 6 months or so? Can I run a second lead off cable from my existing energiser (it has loads of capacity to spare)? Do pigs need a traditional fence as well as electric? Would 2 strands of electric tape do the job? What haven't I thought of?
Shelter - I am on sand so very free draining, and thinking of a straw bale house as shown in the other thread - how big should it be?
Bedding - straw presumably, but how often will it need changing? Or can you add more on top, and then do a big clear out at the end of the season?
Feed - proprietory pig feed? How often - once or twice a day? What else? I think they eat root veg, but does it need cutting up?
Water - is a proper trough needed? I suspect a bucket would get knocked over. I am trying to keep investment to minimum in case we only do it once.
Medication - what is needed as routine? Worming, vaccination?
I'm sure there are loads of other things, but that gives me a start.
Advice gratefully received,
Andrea.

VSS



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 08 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No, two strands of tape won't do.
It is better to have a visual barrier (eg, ordinary fence) behind the electric, but not essential.
Use three, or preferably four, strands of plain wire at seven inch spacings. If poss run another live wire round the inside about middle height and maybe 1 foot to 18 inches away. this will contact pigs shoulders when they get close to the fence, preventing them burying the bottom strand as they rootle.

VSS



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 08 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Feed twice a day.
Worming is important - use powder in feed.
Saw up some plastic 45 gallon drums for cheap troughs.

Nick



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Location: Hereford
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 08 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

pink bouncy wrote:
Er, er, er..... Wooooooooooooo



By Gum! That's a surprise Nick! I'll have to pull my finger out and get a few things sorted in a hurry but if its possible I'd be over the moon!!!

Yay!


How you doing?

I'll be coming to Harrogate (AGAIN) on Thursday. Got sorted?

pink bouncy



Joined: 14 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 08 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Noooooooooo!!!! *Does headless chicken impersonation* We haven't built their house yet, or piggy-proofed their orchard...

Will you still be coming this way on the ninth as you said? *panics*

Nick



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 08 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hm. Doubt it. I intend to be up a mountain in some snow then. No rush, it'll be after the 18th, then.

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