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dpack



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 07 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

see roadkill roast (link pixies please )for p gin recipie

Graham The Builder



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bimini wrote:
I saw a TV programme (IIRC it was called 'The Bounder and the Bart') in which they took the two breasts attached to the breast bone off as one piece. (Is this a crown?). It looked like a really neat and clean way to take the best meat... can anyone explain how this is done


I allways pluck the breasts of pigeons and then crown joint them. To do this, cut down where the legs meet the body (but don't cut them off). Next, make an incision below the sturnum and follow the ribs until you meet the back bone (you don't need to cut into the guts). Holding the bird in your left hand insert your right thumb into the cavity of the bird and place it under the sturnum, then insert your left thumb and locate the backbone. Now prise apart the sturnum and ribcage from the backbone, you will normally find this surprisingly easy. You should be left with the crown breast of pigeon complete with two wings still attached (I usually discard the back and legs unless I am doing a stock or game soup). You will need to cut off the two flight bones near the birds shoulder blades using poultry shears or similar. Clean away any blood and unwanted tissue. You now have one very tidy looking joint of meat complete with the flavoursome skin still left on.

Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gil wrote:
I wouldn't hang the rabbit either. Fresher the better.
Pigeon - dunno. 24hrs springs to mind, though that tends to be how long it takes me to decide I can't be bothered plucking them whole.


Us too gil. We had some super rabbits from Pricey at the Welsh DS meet-up in Aber last December. We bunged 'em straight in the freezer and didn't get 'em out until 2 weeks ago. I finished gutting and skinning them and then made a huge 'Lapin aux Pruneaux' with them for us and some friends who pitched up for the weekend - bloody gorgeous! We've also still got a brace of pigeon in the freezer - feathers and all - courtesy of Pricey too.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 07 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Earlier someone mentioned a bittterness in rabbit. It's something that I've never experienced.
I could eat rabbit day after day and whilst I enjoy venison I could never face the taste of hare and this is coming from a country boy

judith



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 07 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bodger wrote:
Earlier someone mentioned a bittterness in rabbit. It's something that I've never experienced.


This is probably because you acquire your own rabbits, and prepare them in the very best way. I'm pretty sure that my main rabbit supplier doesn't "milk" them after shooting them, and it does give the meat a distinct taste. It doesn't bother my OH in the least, but I find it very noticeable - to the extent that I would rather eat pretty much any meat other than rabbit, unless I'm being noble and preparing my beloved's favourite wabbit stew.

Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 07 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bodger wrote:
Earlier someone mentioned a bittterness in rabbit. It's something that I've never experienced.


Me neither - although I have when eating hare on occasion.

Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 07 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The rabbits we raised for the pot when I was a kid and the rabbits we had from Pricey's tasted great without any bitterness or strong unpleasant taste, however the rabbit I bought from my local farmers market was bitter and unpleasant.

I did soak the skinned and jointed rabbits in a weak brine before rinsing which may of helped but I think milking them and gutting after a few minutes helps greatly or it could just be Pricey's rabbits aren't just any rabbits, these are wild coastal reared holiday rabbits...

Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 07 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
...or it could just be Pricey's rabbits aren't just any rabbits, these are wild coastal reared holiday rabbits...


The ones we got from Pricey were bloody lovely. Mind you, so was my cooking (yes, I do cook sometimes in our household...in spite of what Gervase may lead you all to believe).

Bodger



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 07 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Treacodactyl wrote:
The rabbits we raised for the pot when I was a kid and the rabbits we had from Pricey's tasted great without any bitterness or strong unpleasant taste, however the rabbit I bought from my local farmers market was bitter and unpleasant.

I did soak the skinned and jointed rabbits in a weak brine before rinsing which may of helped but I think milking them and gutting after a few minutes helps greatly or it could just be Pricey's rabbits aren't just any rabbits, these are wild coastal reared holiday rabbits...


The only time you are likely to get an 'off' taste with rabbit is if the guts have been left too long in them, or if the bladder has been ruptured. As I said earlier, its common practice to use pressure on the rabbits abdomen to expel the urine immediately after they've been killed.

fish (the other one)



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 07 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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whitelegg1



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 07 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The one's at Pricey's have been raised on a diet of electrical insulation and water pipes

They definately did taste very nice though

Pete

Blue Sky



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 07 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

fish (the other one) wrote:
i wouldnt recomend hanging a rabbit! i did 2 nights a go and the next morn the cavity was full of blue bottle eggs! realy disapointed! grrrrrrr


We have 'Sac a Jambon's here which come in very handy for times like that. Quite stiff, made of a fine gauze and keep the dreaded blue-bottles off. Our hams would never survive without them.

pricey



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 07 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Just to let those that wanted to see how I do woodies, there is a Article up on the front page now. Thanks Sean

willding2007



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 07 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

you will find rabbits will skin more easily if hung in a cool place over night

Lloyd



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 08 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My grandmother used to always soak a rabbit in brine overnight before cooking, to tenderise it. But she also removed what she called the "silver" from the meat, the membrane covering the muscle, to allow the brine to be absobed.

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