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Bulgarianlily



Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 1667
Location: South West Mountains of Bulgaria
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 5:01 am    Post subject: New Bulgarians Reply with quote
    

Any other 'new bulgarians' on the downsizer forums?

Lily near Gotse Delchev.

Went



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 6968

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Welcome to Downsizer - not sure if there are any members in your part of the world but there are a few downsizers abroad.

lorrayne



Joined: 17 Dec 2004
Posts: 239
Location: Hampshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hello Lily how is Bulgaria ? we looked to buy there a few years ago but ended up in central portugal but are working further south at the moment, altho' I did look the other day at a site/blog about Bulgaria and the first thing I noticed was the roads - a great improvement.
How long have you been there and where is Gotse Delchev near to ?

woodsprite



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 2943
Location: North Herefordshire
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hi Lily!

alison
Downsizer Moderator


Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 12918
Location: North Devon
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

welcome to downsizer

frewen



Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 11405

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

hello

ros



Joined: 19 Jul 2005
Posts: 2469
Location: Beds
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hi Lily

2steps



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Posts: 5349
Location: Surrey
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hello

Rosemary Judy



Joined: 08 Aug 2005
Posts: 1215
Location: East Midlands
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 08 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Welcome Lily......

tell us more about your life in Bulgaria

Bulgarianlily



Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 1667
Location: South West Mountains of Bulgaria
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 08 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Where to start..

We arrived one year and three days ago, after two years of research and one brief visit (due to problems finding a small holder sitter in the UK we couldn't come over more often). We were very lucky to be able to have 14 months of Bulgarian lessons before we came as we wanted to move to an area away from the main 'Brit' part, we think now this was a very wise decision, a lot of Brits here are not 'downsizers' but 'upsizers' in the amount of booze and idleness they can have compared to the UK. Harsh but true, and they give the rest of us a bad name. They tend to live in the cheap bits of Bulgaria, and the assumption is that all of Bulgaria is cheap, but in fact it has huge variety in scenery and desireability of area, don't go on just what you see on ebay and online estate agents.

We had a wish list of what we wanted, the best climate (we have really mild winters) stunning scenery (we can see five mountain ranges from our land), good access to a town and services,free water, and to be half way up a south facing slope so that the frost would fall pass us and the massive heat and invertion levels that you can get both summer and winter in the valley bottoms would not affect us. We got it all except the free water, we are on a dryish ridge of land and there are no wells that we know of in the village. We also wanted to move into a small but lively village, having lived for the last 26 years isolated half a mile off a road in Yorkshire. So we did the research, ending up with about 10 villages that we thought would meet our requirements, and settled in one that both ticked all our boxes and felt like home. We are about 40 minutes drive below Bansko the main ski resort (which is a mushroom of a town that is heading for disaster, no infratructure at all, massive over developement, half built projects everywhere, but does have a nice Jazz festival), and an hour or so from the beaches in Northern Greece, so visitors to us can do both ski and sea holidays! Gotse Delchev is a laid back charming little town with hospital and shops, lots of cafe culture and the odd cultural event (sometimes very odd, we went to the guitar festival last week and were treated to an amazing Japanese guitar player that used q-tips and scissors as well as his fingers...but it worked!). The people in our village are muslim, but they say they are Bulgarian first and muslim second. This is proved by our neighbour's rakia still, and the availability of bacon and pork salami in the one village shop. There is a small school (for which I now trying to fund raise some paint and swings for the children's play area we are building with the kids), one textile factory, lots of stone quarries where the men work, and on every possible occasion, there is music in the square and everyone turns out and dances the 'horo' for hours... It is still a donkey and horse drawn agricultural village, which has tobacco as it's cash crop.

We got just over two hectares for 17 thousand pound, and are busy building a number of buildings using alternative methods, strawbale, light clay wood chip, cordwood, etc, and the village is keenly interested in all this. We are taking our first volunteers this summer, and are being asked by Bulgarians to run courses! We are trying to keep this on a non fee basis, as we feel this us our contribution to Bulgaria. We have excellent internet here, 8 megs, so we can continue to run our second hand book business when we have our books on site, right now they are in storage.

That is the barebones of what we are doing, I could type for hours about the fun we have, the food, the wild flowers.. but I have to go and work on the mud plaster.

Lily

OP



Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 4661
Location: Yorkshire
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 08 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks for the insight, very interesting to hear about real experiences in Bulgaria rather than the "place in the sun" type of thing.

James



Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2866
Location: York
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 08 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

that sounds great, Lily. I can hear a virtual sigh from all the other downsizers. I'd love a couple of hectares on a south facing slope. It sounds like you've chosen very well. Best of luck to you all.

Just for your interest, you could probably drill a small diameter borehole to get your own water. A single source may not provide enough for multiple houses (which is why the village hasn't got a well), but even the hardest rock can normally provide enough for one house and a little land.
(however, depending on the type of rock, at UK prices you'd be looking at £15,000 to put such a hole in!)

Bulgarianlily



Joined: 01 Jun 2008
Posts: 1667
Location: South West Mountains of Bulgaria
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 08 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It is usual in Bulgaria for each house to have both access to some form of piped water and a well, either a tradional shallow one or a sonda, a tube well. BUT there are none here and it has to be down to the geology, this is a dry village with no rivers, our other parcel of land which is about 200 metres lower than the village has water on it six foot down. We are going with building big storage tanks for winter rain.

We have our first volunteer coming for three months this summer, to help build, if anyone wants to visit just say so! The more the merrier

Lily

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 08 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bulgarianlily wrote:

We have our first volunteer coming for three months this summer, to help build, if anyone wants to visit just say so! The more the merrier

Lily


Great. And then you can put in 1000m of rabbit fencing for me. And darn my socks whilst you're at it.

Welcome to Downsizer.

Douglas in Transilvania



Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 11
Location: Huedin, Romania
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 08 10:09 am    Post subject: from your neighbours in Transylvania Reply with quote
    

dear Lily,
We are in Huedin (40 kms west of Cluj) in Transylvania. We are looking to build a network all over the region. There are a few other people we know of in Trabsylvania. Email douglasmcfarlane@hotmail.com

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