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mihto



Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 08 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

judith wrote:
mihto wrote:
Fry them, boil them, smoke them. They are lovely food, serve them with a cucumber salad, new potatoess and sour cream. Ask for recepies!


Recipes please, mihto


Will do. Just on my way out for another afternoon of trout fishing. Guest from Germany; anything to keep them happy!!!

Will get back tomorrow.

Bugs



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 08 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jonnyboy wrote:
To be honest I just throw back the ones that look small and haven't damaged themselves too badly on the hook

main problem I find ...

Not very scientific I'm afraid.


Seems fair enough...the natural world has a bad habit of not reading the guidelines doesn't it? - thanks for that, it's reassuring.

dpack wrote:
i was thinking of conger as fierce but my first garfish gave both me and yellow dog a startle ... my other hint is good gloves and a meshnet (or other soft cloth) cos many fish have sharp bits and are well wriggly


I'm glad it's not just me then! I will be very careful, thanks Dpack.

Also cheers Justme for your local guidelines - seems there are genuine regional variations then.

mihto wrote:
Enjoy the fishing and welcome to the macrel club.


Thanks Mihto. Some interesting tips there. I will steer clear of recipes until the time comes though. I very much enjoyed our last trip simply for the seaside and challenge of learning, so any catch will just be icing on the cake really Not quite sure what "Oh boy here we go again....." means? Being, as you rightly say, a "newbie", this is the first time this question has been asked here to my knowledge?

mihto



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

/quote]Not quite sure what "Oh boy here we go again....." means? Being, as you rightly say, a "newbie", this is the first time this question has been asked here to my knowledge? [/quote]

Oh dear, I'm sorry if there was a misunderstanding. What I meant to say was. Oh boy here we go again. Macrel time ALREADY? We are some weeks behind you up here, and macrel fishing has not reached my concious level yet. I need to put the fishing rod with the right lure connected in the car: on my way home from work I drive along the fjord and then keep an eye open for the schools of macrel. The trick is then to stop the car in a safe place, sprint back and catch a few before they are gone. Not very elegant, but it gives us some nice dinners.

As far as Downsizer goes I'm a newbie as well. I also struggle to keep my balance in a language that is foreign to me, and without a spell check I'm bound to stumble sometimes. However, my experience in fishing, foraging and animals in general should make up for my lack of manners. I would love to be of help; please feel free to ask any question within my range of knowledge!

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

that is an elegant way to fish

mihto



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

judith wrote:
mihto wrote:
Fry them, boil them, smoke them. They are lovely food, serve them with a cucumber salad, new potatoess and sour cream. Ask for recepies!


Recipes please, mihto


Now for some recipes: a must with macrel is the simple sour cream sauce: an ample helping of sour cream mixed with a teaspoon or two of sugar and a liberal sprincling of chives. Goes with any kind of macrel, trout or salmon.

Then the cucumber salad. Cucumber sliced in thin slices. Put in proper amount of salt and ground pepper, then sugar and white vinegar to taste. Also a must with other fat fish.

Boiled, cold macrel. You need water for boling, amount depending on the amount of macrel. Salt to taste, quite a bit. Whole black peppercorns, slices of onion (s), a laurel leaf, sugar and vinegar. Boil for 10 minutes to get a nice taste. Put the macrel in the water and simmer for 10 minutes. Cool the macrel in the brine and serve cold with small potatoes, cucumber salad and sour cream sauce.

How do you people prepare macrel, apart from standard frying or boiling?
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Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

mihto wrote:
Macrel time ALREADY? We are some weeks behind you up here, and macrel fishing has not reached my concious level yet.


Ah right! My apologies - being overparanoid - your English is a tusen times better than my Norwegian (bet I've mis-spelled even that) and I bet it gives my English a run for its money too.

I'm still not sure we will actually come home with anything - not just skills but the weather has turned a bit more grey and cool - does that make much difference? Because it takes us over an hour to get to an appropriate beach, we can't go very often, so my learning curve is going to be very long so I am sure I will be holding my hand up for more advice soon!

mihto



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

He he. Tusen times is just fine. A German friend once told me he refused to say tusen takk (meaning a thousand thanks). To takk (two thanks) should be plenty.

Weather does not matter, except cold wind and rain is making the fishing experience an ordeal. Make sure that the tide is on its way up before you start fishing. Try different depths: sometimes the macrel goes high in the water, sometimes deep. When using a lure, give the rod a proper tug now and again. The changing movement is irresistible. If you are rather inexperienced with throwing lures, get some cheap ones for a start. Once the macrel are on the move they will go for just about anything that moves and cheap lures will save you money. If a lure works well, write down the name and the make in case you lose your newfound friend.

Good luck!!!

Bugs



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I guess at least starting from tusen gives you room for manoeuvre..."to takk" could be a pretty pointed reply!

Last time we went it rained most of the day but I was having enough fun learning to put up with it - it looks like this time risks showers but there should be sunny intervals and at least I won't come back strawberry-coloured.

mihto wrote:
Make sure that the tide is on its way up before you start fishing.


That's handy - I believe we hope to arrive just around low tide so that gives us lots of time to look around and prepare ourselves first, and we don't need to rush back.

Thanks very much for the tips - you never know, I might be trying out your recipes yet (been vegetarian for half my life so there is plenty of learning to do there too...)...there might even be pictures

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Don't forget the disposable barbeque!

sean
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 08 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jonnyboy wrote:
Don't forget the disposable barbeque!


Portable re-usable barbecue burning lumpwood charcoal made from wood sustainably harvested from a local coppice, surely?

mihto



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 08 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bugs, we are waiting for your mackerel story!

Did you go, what did you catch, what did you use when or if you caught anything?

Spurred by your initiative I tried for some mackerel myself and let my German guests have a go at it as well. The surprised "yelp!!" from my friend must have been heard to be believed; it was his first mackerel ever and it was a big daddy who gave him a good fight. After that I was relegated to cleaning.

Thank you for reminding me not to look at the calendar but just test the water. We had a terrific day: sunny, windy with some drops of rain to make us finish the ball and go home to the fishpot.

Why don't you British ever come to Norway to fish?

Bugs



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 08 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

mihto wrote:
Bugs, we are waiting for your mackerel story!

Did you go, what did you catch, what did you use when or if you caught anything?


Hmmm...it isn't one to keep you awake at night - we made our trip and my beloved (Treacodactyl of this parish) caught the first one that we saw landed on the beach that day. Hurray! And he was well over the recommended size (the fish, I mean..).

We took him home and fried him simply. I had a forkful while TD polished off the rest - that's the first time I have ever eaten mackeral and I was surprised at how mild and tender it was. Not nearly as much of a challenge to eat as I was worried about. I would be very happy to eat it again.

Unfortunately that was the last of our catch for that day. We were mostly spinning with lures. TD's catch was with a strip of defrosted garfish. Later on, some boys who obviously were regulars came up and settled themselves on the jetty (which we were wary of as it was slippery and indeed one of the boys fell in at one point!) - they were using feathers and caught quite a lot. Others came up to fish the beach from the other side of us, also with feathers, and also caught a few, so it seems there were quite a few fish about, but that we weren't casting far enough or with the right bait. Next time we will try a bit more weight I think and feathers.

But apart from feeling intimidated later in the day by people casting a bit close to me (I ceded my place to them and left TD to it at that point) I really enjoyed the day and my first taste of mackerel and I look forward to trying again late in the summer when it's a bit less busy.

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Why don't you British ever come to Norway to fish?

Is that an invitation?! Thanks very much for your tips, I am looking forward to putting more of them in to practice in the future.

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 08 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Excellent news Bugs, a successful trip and loads of useful info gleaned from the locals behaviour for next time.

Mackerel that fresh will be delicate and not overpowering at all. Plus as it's early in the summer its oil content will be lower than an autumn fish

Bugs



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 08 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jonnyboy wrote:
Mackerel that fresh will be delicate and not overpowering at all. Plus as it's early in the summer its oil content will be lower than an autumn fish


That's interesting - I think if we get to go back for another go it will be early September, I should expect that to taste a little more challenging then?

Lots of fun learning about new stuff again

Jonnyboy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 08 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I wouldn't say challenging when it's that fresh, but it will certainly give you a better dose of omega 3.

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