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SheepShed



Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 09 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

batman4435 wrote:
it is English lol just short i did it like that cause i was in a hurry lol

Good for you! Far too many people waste valuable time on trivia like spelling and punctuation. If someone's too thick to work out what "i was glad... the first time i missed i had kitchen work seface is it went into the second one n its not the cheap stuf lol solid chip bored" means, that's their problem isn't it ?

batman4435



Joined: 06 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 09 6:19 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote
    

u lost me i no im not a very good speller . but hay im dyslexik lol how i got that word google it amazing how im of the topic of good air rifle to buy but still cheap and fun to use ...

SheepShed



Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 332
Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 09 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My bad m8

If you're serious about getting into air gunning and hunting then people will be pleased to support you, it's just that old crusties like me see people using text speak (txt spk) and feel that if they can't be bothered to make the effort to post messages that others can understand easily, then they might not want to make the effort involved in learning to shoot properly.

A badly spelt forum post never hurt anyone, but when you're using a gun you have the potential to kill. Shooting has enough people trying to bring it down so shooters get a bit twitchy about the image that comes across on public forums.

I'd say again :

1. Get a decent air rifle - the SMK is a piece of cr*p, you're only going to get frustrated trying to do anything with it. I don't know where you are but a good gun shop should be able to set you up with a decent secondhand springer and scope for £200

2. Practice shooting on targets. Again and again and again. You're looking for consistency - can you put a pellet in 1" at a given distance whether you're prone, kneeling or standing? It's not easy. Shooting a springer is more difficult than shooting a PCP or rimfire but will give you good technique that will pay dividends for the rest of your life.

3. Practice your fieldcraft - how close can you get to bunnies without spooking them ? Learn what makes a difference (the army teach the 6 S's - Shape, Shine, Shadow, Silhouette, Smell, Sudden Movement).

When you've got all that sorted, you can go out on your mate's dad's farm and try and put it all together.

If you want to talk to the experts you can look at https://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/. Best to lurk for a while before saying anything, as they tend to kill newbies asking stupid questions, and they are very unforgiving about people using txt spk. There are also some excellent bargains going for SH air rifles - a tuned BSA Lightning with Simmons scope for £160 at the moment for instance.

Hope this helps and best wishes.

batman4435



Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 09 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

SheepShed wrote:
My bad m8

If you're serious about getting into air gunning and hunting then people will be pleased to support you, it's just that old crusties like me see people using text speak (txt spk) and feel that if they can't be bothered to make the effort to post messages that others can understand easily, then they might not want to make the effort involved in learning to shoot properly.

A badly spelt forum post never hurt anyone, but when you're using a gun you have the potential to kill. Shooting has enough people trying to bring it down so shooters get a bit twitchy about the image that comes across on public forums.

I'd say again :

1. Get a decent air rifle - the SMK is a piece of cr*p, you're only going to get frustrated trying to do anything with it. I don't know where you are but a good gun shop should be able to set you up with a decent secondhand springer and scope for £200

2. Practice shooting on targets. Again and again and again. You're looking for consistency - can you put a pellet in 1" at a given distance whether you're prone, kneeling or standing? It's not easy. Shooting a springer is more difficult than shooting a PCP or rimfire but will give you good technique that will pay dividends for the rest of your life.

3. Practice your fieldcraft - how close can you get to bunnies without spooking them ? Learn what makes a difference (the army teach the 6 S's - Shape, Shine, Shadow, Silhouette, Smell, Sudden Movement).

When you've got all that sorted, you can go out on your mate's dad's farm and try and put it all together.

If you want to talk to the experts you can look at https://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/. Best to lurk for a while before saying anything, as they tend to kill newbies asking stupid questions, and they are very unforgiving about people using txt spk. There are also some excellent bargains going for SH air rifles - a tuned BSA Lightning with Simmons scope for £160 at the moment for instance.

Hope this helps and best wishes.
yes that help's a lot thanks

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd
PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 09 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Welcome aboard Batman.

batman4435



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 09 10:35 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote
    

vegplot wrote:
Welcome aboard Batman.
thanks sorry when i seen that i had to put it's made my day

Old-Chads-Orchard



Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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Location: Malpas, Cheshire
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 09 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

check out the link in my sig, they are a bit more friendly than the BBS

Where abouts are you?

Sovvolf



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Okay, I realise that this thread was last replied on in 08, I apologise for bringing up such an old thread 2 years later. However I was looking for an answer and this thread was extremely relevant as my question is extremely similar to Batmans question.

I'm on the verge of buying an air rifle, mainly for plinking or target shooting... don't intend on killing anything with it. While I'll certainly be taking this rifle to the shooting range... I'd like to get a little practise in my garden.

I was wondering if this was legal. While you answered Batmans question with a yes... My situation may be a little different as I live in a council house. Meaning that it's council property I'd be shooting on. Which may or may not technically be armed trespass. I've applied for permission from the council to shoot... I'm just wandering if it's necessary or if I'd be breaking a law... I don't want to go to jail for enjoying a hobby.

Also the rifle isn't powerful enough to require a licence, under 12 ips ( I think that's the measurement) of muzzle energy. I hope me raising this dead thread back into the living isn't an inconvenience and I would be extremely grateful for any answer or any advice you could give me on this matter.

Brownbear



Joined: 28 May 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You're not taking game, so I don't see how the landlord's permission is required. Just make sure you've got a proper backstop and no ricochets. I'd also advise you to speak to your neighbours, tell them what you propose to do and make sure they're happy that it's safe.

You don't want them getting worried or offended, and calling the coppers on you.

SheepShed



Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Location: In the middle of a Welsh forest
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sovvolf wrote:
I've applied for permission from the council to shoot...

I hope you haven't opened a can of worms here - I can just imagine assorted council jobsworths getting their knickers in a twist over this.

As Brownbear says, you don't need permission (you're the occupier) you just need to be safe and ensure that no pellets leave the boundary of your property. And it would be wise to politely inform your neighbours first and try and get them on your side to avoid any misunderstandings.

crofter



Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 2252

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I was surprised to shoot myself with an air rifle yesterday. Setting sights for someone, aiming at a straining post 25 - 30 yards away. Beware of ricochets.

vegplot



Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

crofter wrote:
I was surprised to shoot myself with an air rifle yesterday. Setting sights for someone, aiming at a straining post 25 - 30 yards away. Beware of ricochets.


That's exactly what I did in my teenage years. A knot on a fence post was an excellent target, or so I thought until the pellet ricocheted and smacked me in the forehead. I was lucky.

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I saw a video the other day of someone shooting himself in the head with a .50 sniper rifle via a ricochet. Bet that made his ears ring.

Sovvolf



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

SheepShed wrote:
Sovvolf wrote:
I've applied for permission from the council to shoot...

I hope you haven't opened a can of worms here - I can just imagine assorted council jobsworths getting their knickers in a twist over this.

As Brownbear says, you don't need permission (you're the occupier) you just need to be safe and ensure that no pellets leave the boundary of your property. And it would be wise to politely inform your neighbours first and try and get them on your side to avoid any misunderstandings.



I'm not the occupier (well rent payer), my father is and I have his permission to shoot. However, isn't the land technecally the councils land?. Even though my father is paying the rent and living there... that land doesn't belong to him does it?, So wouldn't I need the councils permission if I'm to shoot on their land. I'm sorry if I seem overly cautious about this but I'm playing devils advocate with my own request because I'm a first time shooter and I don't want to do anything that will break the law... That or have me behind bars for a few years... I know it's just an Air Rifle and me shooting it shouldn't harm anyone... However the law views a Air Rifle the same as any other fire-arm and I doubt they take some thing like armed trespass lightly... even if it's only a technicality.

I will definitely be taking it up with my neighbours first though. I mean they may be a little suspicious and phone the police when they see some lad walking around with a rifle in his hands. I don't want an armed response team aiming their guns at me over this little misunderstanding.

Last edited by Sovvolf on Tue Jun 15, 10 6:21 pm; edited 2 times in total

Brownbear



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 10 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you're concerned, why not find out the number of your local police firearms enquiry officer and give him or her a bell? Or join one of the shooting organisations and ask their legal department.

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