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boisdevie1

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 3897
Location: Lancaster

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 12:43 pm Post subject: How to stop B&B guests smoking in the rooms?
I have a few signs around saying it's non-smoking but still some guests smoke in their rooms anyway. Since I don't smoke anymore I can tell a mile off that they have been smoking. Apart from plastering the house with more signs (which I'd rather avoid) is there any way of getting them to stop. Obviously a smoke detector linked into some kind of death ray is not viable.

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 12:54 pm Post subject:
Have a profesional fire alarm system fitted (guest will take the batts out of cheap ones). They will get the message when all the residents have to get up at 1am cos they had a crafty smoke. Poss even auto sprinkler system. Justme PS prefered the death ray idea........

Mary-Jane

Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 18397
Location: The Fishing Strumpet is from Ceredigion in West Wales

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 1:05 pm Post subject:

Justme wrote:

Have a profesional fire alarm system fitted (guest will take the batts out of cheap ones). They will get the message when all the residents have to get up at 1am cos they had a crafty smoke. Poss even auto sprinkler system.

Justme

PS prefered the death ray idea........

The alarm sytem works quite well. Especially if it's one which also sets off an alarm on reception if anyone tries to disarm it (ask Gervase about that...

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alison
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 1:16 pm Post subject:
It is a public building, they shouldn't be smoking in there anyway. Unless you can catch them though, I don't think you can do much. I have knocked on a bedroom door before and shamed them, by telling them to stop smoking, and I can see their hand out of the bedroom window, with the cigarette in. I have also had a butt thrown on me, accidently, when I walked under a window.

cinders

Joined: 04 Jun 2007
Posts: 2437
Location: norfolk The daft old bat club

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 1:42 pm Post subject:

[quote="alison"]It is a public building, they shouldn't be smoking in there anyway.[quote]

I believe you still can smoke in your hotel room,unless you have a no smoking policy.Its considered you are at home.When we stayed in london after the smoking ban we were given a smoking room.To my surprise

Could you put it into your hotel policy anyone found smoking would have a charge added to they bill,to cover cost of cleaning bill etc?

boisdevie1

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 3897
Location: Lancaster

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 2:02 pm Post subject:

[quote="Eco"][quote="alison"]It is a public building, they shouldn't be smoking in there anyway.

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I believe you still can smoke in your hotel room,unless you have a no smoking policy.Its considered you are at home.When we stayed in london after the smoking ban we were given a smoking room.To my surprise

Could you put it into your hotel policy anyone found smoking would have a charge added to they bill,to cover cost of cleaning bill etc?

By the time I've discovered they've been smoking they've often left! If they're going to ignore the smoking ban then they're certain to be the bolshie/couldn't care less variety.

cinders

Joined: 04 Jun 2007
Posts: 2437
Location: norfolk The daft old bat club

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 2:05 pm Post subject:
i guess thats where big hotels luck out they take credit card only and bill you for extras later,ie drinks at the bar,drink from rooms mini bar,films you watch on pay per view.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 2:12 pm Post subject:

Justme wrote:

Poss even auto sprinkler system.

Justme

Probably end up costing you more in damages though.

Justme wrote:

PS prefered the death ray idea........

Me too

Then the signs saying "Smoking Kills" would have even more significance

Jon

Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 183

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 7:37 pm Post subject:
not sure if its in the fire regs or just advice that small B&B's should have mains operated smoke alarms that are all linked so that if one goes off, they all sound. maybe worth checking, bet it would make them sit up and take notice, either that or make them slope off to the bathroom for a sly smoke !

sally_in_wales
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Joined: 06 Mar 2005
Posts: 20809
Location: sunny wales

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 07 8:09 pm Post subject:
Even cheap'ordinary' smoke alarms might be enough to help deter them, put a tamper strip on the opening part to help stop them taking out the battery

bernie-woman

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 7824
Location: shropshire

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 07 7:17 am Post subject:

Eco wrote:

I was surprsied also to be asked if I wanted a smoking room in Bristol the other week

One of the ways to ry and combat smokers is to advertise that it is a non-smoking B&B on all of your marketing literature

sally_in_wales
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Location: sunny wales

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 07 7:57 am Post subject:
Could you make one small part of the garden into a good place to go for a smoke and suggest that though you prefer no smoking at all, if they must thats the place to do it?

Northern_Lad

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 14210
Location: Somewhere

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 07 8:28 am Post subject:

If they're part of a smoking pair, slit one of their throats and make the other one look at the tar lining the way and ask if they want to suffer the same fate.

Smoking indoors is illegal as you're gonig to be classed as a workplace. It's also f£"$ing ignorant and shows off the self-centered, mindless rabbidity of some of these 'poor addicts'.

Make sure you have notices at reception and around the place saying that you will fine people for smoking. Take a copy of their credit card when they check in, then, when you catch them, tell them that they are being fined and take the money. You never know, after ten or twenty warnings at £100 each they might get the message.

lottie

Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 5059
Location: ceredigion

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 07 9:10 am Post subject:
Given the choice I'd rather entertain the smoker in my house than the intemperate----of course in an ideal world I'd prefer the temperate non smoker

hedgewitch

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Posts: 5834
Location: Daft wench GHQ

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 07 9:27 am Post subject:

Northern_Lad wrote:

Take a copy of their credit card when they check in, then, when you catch them, tell them that they are being fined and take the money. You never know, after ten or twenty warnings at £100 each they might get the message.

In many places I have stayed recently, there are large notices all over saying that the place is none smoking and if you do smoke in your room then a charge will be made against your card to pay for cleaning the room. This varies from £50-£150. This seems to me better than a fine, as you are reflecting the cost you incur rather than getting on a soap box.

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