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sheep dip poisoning ,gov knew risks,grrrrrrr.

 
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dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 15 8:48 pm    Post subject: sheep dip poisoning ,gov knew risks,grrrrrrr. Reply with quote
    

news report

i spose somebody must have gained by making folk use dangeroos dips even though the risks were known .

if the legal stuff gets sorted properly i hope at least some of the guilty will regret doing what seems to have been done

iirc there are ds chums who were harmed by compulsory dipping with legally specified op products ,i hope there is proper redress for the harm done.

the hiv/hep from medically prescribed blood products scandal is another issue where the state knew and failed to act to prevent in a timely manner.

by government im not singling out any westminster party ,this sort of thing is firmly laid at the desks of civil servants where the details landed.
this time the farmer dept and the health dept need to find some old heads to put on sticks.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 15 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

& it turns out Monsanto knew 35 years ago about the cancer risks of roundup.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 15 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tavascarow wrote:
& it turns out Monsanto knew 35 years ago about the cancer risks of roundup.


i would expect the manufacturer of a dangeroos but profitable product to suppress the danger(and quietly change product to minimise their liability)or to withdraw it as soon as they know but for a gov to ignore the dangers is harder to explain.

incompetence would be the most generous option, fear of being found incompetent is understandable ,it just goes downhill from here to well paid to lose the data and incompetent at doing that.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 15 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

fw report

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 15 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

there is also the disposal of dip bath contents as well as splash and residue issues .



considering history it is a bit of a surprise they are in common use[url]

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dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 15 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ps the history thing contains some very useful info and links to stuff about poisoning pests and not harming folk of non pests

gz



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 15 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

My late Mountain Man knew what he had, and knew it was dipping sheep that had caused it.
As he said a week before he died, "we had no choice but to dip, no choice what to dip with...and you ended up being in a bath of it inside your protective clothing after dipping several hundred sheep "

LynneA



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 15 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gummer said it was safe, so it was pretty obvious the answer was no

dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 15 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

another try at the

hansard one

hansard two

these links now work and provide some rather strong evidence that some of the problems were known about in westminster and whitehall since the time of the zuckerman report.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 15 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:
Tavascarow wrote:
& it turns out Monsanto knew 35 years ago about the cancer risks of roundup.


i would expect the manufacturer of a dangeroos but profitable product to suppress the danger(and quietly change product to minimise their liability)or to withdraw it as soon as they know but for a gov to ignore the dangers is harder to explain.

incompetence would be the most generous option, fear of being found incompetent is understandable ,it just goes downhill from here to well paid to lose the data and incompetent at doing that.
But governments have sided with big business for decades.
It doesn't surprise me one bit.
How big a problem was/is sheep scab?
How much did/does it cost the industry?
How much did the agrochem manufacturers profit from a compulsory market?
& finally. How much did/do they contribute to partypolitical funds?

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 15 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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