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Bugs



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 05 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That's fascinating, Cab, it's the first time I've heard such a full explanation that seems to make sense. Thanks.

I think 15-16% will probably get Jema wherever he wants to be anyway - besides, the lower the alcohol, the more time you can spend enjoying it

cab



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 05 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Bugs wrote:
That's fascinating, Cab, it's the first time I've heard such a full explanation that seems to make sense. Thanks.

I think 15-16% will probably get Jema wherever he wants to be anyway - besides, the lower the alcohol, the more time you can spend enjoying it


You're welcome.

You can get to 18% with a really alcohol resistant yeast, but for heavy duty, high alcohol brewing I'd go down the sake route. But I rarely even measure how much alcohol I've produced, to be honest!

jema
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 05 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

cab wrote:
Bugs wrote:
That's fascinating, Cab, it's the first time I've heard such a full explanation that seems to make sense. Thanks.

I think 15-16% will probably get Jema wherever he wants to be anyway - besides, the lower the alcohol, the more time you can spend enjoying it


You're welcome.

You can get to 18% with a really alcohol resistant yeast, but for heavy duty, high alcohol brewing I'd go down the sake route. But I rarely even measure how much alcohol I've produced, to be honest!


The alcotec ones can hit 20%. I used some of this to fix a stuck ferment and so as a matter of course used what was left to try and do this with the suger solution suggested. I thought maybe the results could be used for some fortification purpose or could be flavoured. I was less than impressed though and chucked the result.

Hedonists



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 05 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Many thanks for this recipe, I started my first one gallon batch yesterday.

As a couple of others have mentioned, I quite fancy having a bash at a five gallon batch in the future, but I was hoping someone might be able to answer a couple of questions first:

Presumably, for a five gallon batch all the ingredients would need to be multiplied by five, not just increase the amount of water?

Would one need to use more yeast for a larger batch?

Can anyone suggest a place (preferably online) where I might be able to buy a large cooking pot - the largest I have at the moment can handle about four pints of of water and 3lb of carrots at a time. So the thought of processing 30lb of carrots in this way doesn't fill me with joy.

Thanks in advance.

jema
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 05 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hedonists wrote:
Many thanks for this recipe, I started my first one gallon batch yesterday.

As a couple of others have mentioned, I quite fancy having a bash at a five gallon batch in the future, but I was hoping someone might be able to answer a couple of questions first:

Presumably, for a five gallon batch all the ingredients would need to be multiplied by five, not just increase the amount of water?

Would one need to use more yeast for a larger batch?

Can anyone suggest a place (preferably online) where I might be able to buy a large cooking pot - the largest I have at the moment can handle about four pints of of water and 3lb of carrots at a time. So the thought of processing 30lb of carrots in this way doesn't fill me with joy.

Thanks in advance.


Yep everything apart from yeast needs multiplying, even with yeast though upping it a bit would be a good idea, as you want to get it fermenting reasonably quickly.

cab



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 05 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hedonists wrote:

Can anyone suggest a place (preferably online) where I might be able to buy a large cooking pot - the largest I have at the moment can handle about four pints of of water and 3lb of carrots at a time. So the thought of processing 30lb of carrots in this way doesn't fill me with joy.

Thanks in advance.


I can get two gallons in my preserving pan, and you can get such a pan in most big cookware shops.

Hedonists



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 05 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lovely, thanks very much for your assistance folks

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hedonists wrote:
Lovely, thanks very much for your assistance folks


Glad you've posted neighbour

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you can't find anywhere closer there's a shop i drive past everyday on Commercial Road (whitechapel) that sells huge pots and pans. I'll find the name etc if you're interested.

Hedonists



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you don't mind Tahir, that'd be great. Mrs Hedonist works around that area, so I might be able to persuade to stop off and check out some prices for me.
...oh and howdy neighbour

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'll have a look on my way home tonight.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

This is 'em:

Kushiara Cash & Carry
313-317, Commercial Rd, London, E1 2PS
Tel: 020 7790 1234

I doubt it's worth ringing them unless you speak Bengali though, if you or your wife drives past you'll see great big huge pans in the window.

jema
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

tahir wrote:
This is 'em:

Kushiara Cash & Carry
313-317, Commercial Rd, London, E1 2PS
Tel: 020 7790 1234

I doubt it's worth ringing them unless you speak Bengali though, if you or your wife drives past you'll see great big huge pans in the window.


Must say I am curious as well. My biggest pot is 12 pints, and I'd like bigger but have balked at cost.
Remember though that Aluminium is not suitable.

tahir



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The ones in the window are most definitely aluminium, they may do stainless though.

Hedonists



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 05 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Thanks very much for the info.
I shan't 'phone, as Bengali isn't my strong point - a friend once taught me a few swear words in Urdu, but I've never found a suitable occassion to try them out.

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