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touchwood

Joined: 12 Jul 2009
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Location: Carmarthenshire

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 12:53 pm Post subject: Horses what should I charge

Any suggestions as to what would be a reasonable amount to charge someone to use a couple of acreas for their hourses and keeping an eye on them?

Earlier in the year we had a call from someone moving into the village asking if they could "rent" a field for "a couple of weeks" until they got their field sorted out. We said OK and they moved on at Easter although no offer of rent was ever forthcoming. We didn't mind as it was only supposed to be short term.
However despite asking them to make other arrangements they are still there and keep making excuses why they can't move yet. They also rarely come to see the horses and it had always been left to us to ensure they have got water. After all this time I don't think it's unfair to ask them to contribute something but have no idea what to charge. Any ideas please.

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 12:54 pm Post subject:
If they can afford horses they can afford to pay rent and to pay for you to care for the animals! What a bl**dy cheek!

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 1:18 pm Post subject:
£3 a kilo?

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
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Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 1:24 pm Post subject:

dpack wrote:

£3 a kilo?

Welcome home.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 1:32 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

dpack wrote:

£3 a kilo?

Welcome home.

He's right as usual. Lots of horse owners have issues paying for upkeep at the moment, they're onto a proper cushtie number with you.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4633
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 1:59 pm Post subject:

Shame you hadnt sorted the cost of keep before hand,but they shou ld have at least offered some payment before now.

Dont pussy foot around with them,charge at least £5 per head per week for grazing,
And demand payment before Horses leave,

Before the passport system came in for Horses,you could sell these Horses to cover expenses,after notifying the owner,28 days beforehand.
The problem now is,esspecially if these people are Horse People,they know the rules,That no Horse can leave the property to a sale,market or privately without a passport.

Worse case scenario,you could end up with these Horses,If ,the cost of keep is more than they re worth.

Mr O

Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 5512
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:01 pm Post subject:
I would lock every gate in the field until they pay up.

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:04 pm Post subject:
Could you call the knackerman in?

T.G

Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Location: Somewhere you're not

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:12 pm Post subject:

Locally grazing rights cost anywhere between 3 acres for £600 from 1st May till the 1st October to 6 acres for £600 from the 1st April till the 1st November, with water laid on to the field.

So as you can see it's not a specific science.

However, that is merely grazing, and the owner does the water check and visits the horses.

DIY turnout, where they rent grazing and the owner of the fields checks on the horses is anywhere between £15 and £25 per week. The owner of the horse does not have to check the horse everyday as they are paying for the owner of the grazing to do this on their behalf and the owner of the field ensures there is water supply.

I'd suggest you investigate the local market to formulate a fair price.

Although, I do feel the horse owners are taking the proverbial.
HTH.

welsh veg grower

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
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Location: here today but tomorrow...

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:22 pm Post subject:

used to charge about £10 per horse per week when we had extra land. I used to keep an eye daily when i looked at ours but nothing much and would call owners if something needed doing.

Just as a side thought have you checked these owners are still going to look after take these animals back as there is a big problem with dumping horses at the moment as the market in horses is on its knees, cant give them away at the moment. RSPCA in Wales is saying they are no longer able to cope with the horses being sent to them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17098490

I would be asking them to pay up or take them away as you dont want to be left with horses to care for

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:23 pm Post subject:

Mr O wrote:

I would lock every gate in the field until they pay up.

Once they are out on them would work well.

touchwood

Joined: 12 Jul 2009
Posts: 116
Location: Carmarthenshire

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:24 pm Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Shame you hadnt sorted the cost of keep before hand,but they shou ld have at least offered some payment before now.

You're so right, but hindsight is a wonderful thing...we honestly thought we were doing someone a favour for a few weeks. I started thinking I was having the p*** taken a couple of months ago when they casually mentioned not putting the horses on their own field but "renting it out to campers to get some income". Thats when I said the horses couldn't stay where they were and even gave them the telephone number of the person that tops our field so they could get there's done. Needless to say they haven't contacted him and are still saying they haven't got time to sort their field out at the moment.

And if worse comes to worse I know the local slaughterman and am not adverse to eating horse....we've reared our own pigs for the freezer in the past so can't see much difference.

mochyn

Joined: 21 Dec 2004
Posts: 24585
Location: mid-Wales

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:25 pm Post subject:
Since the owners aren't looking after them, tell them you're going to contact the RSPCA.

touchwood

Joined: 12 Jul 2009
Posts: 116
Location: Carmarthenshire

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:29 pm Post subject:
Thanks to everyone for your input....I worry that I'm being unreasonable...mind you you've got me worried now that I'm going to end up with them dumped on me. Any idea where I would stand if I took them to where they lived and tethered them up there. Obviously telling the owners what I had done.

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4633
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 2:33 pm Post subject:
Ideally,you d like some money,and the Horses gone. Do you know where these peoples land is? Are you able to catch the Horses or have a suitable loading place?

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