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gardening-girl



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 9:16 pm    Post subject: Apple juice going brown? Reply with quote
    

Lots of lovely apples to press,but last year the juice went brown.How do you stop this?
We usually press,then freeze in new milk cartons.
Doesn`t affect the taste,but doesn`t look very appetising.

jamanda
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I put about 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid per litre powder in with it. De-oxidises it a treat and you end up with pretty pink juice.

Pilsbury



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Pm bodger, he pressed 400liters this weekend, i think he sprinkles the apples once they come out the chipper and before they go in the press...

Bodger



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Slice an apple and leave it for a while and it will go brown. Apple juice oxidises too, so get some vitamin C ( ascorbic acid) into it ASAP.

jamanda
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

This is what I use

gythagirl



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

How much do you use, Mandy? Funnily enough I was going to ask Andrea how she does her apple juice! We have an awful lot of apples and no pigs this year!

Nicky cigreen



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

we just accept that is the colour of apple juice....

jamanda
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gythagirl wrote:
How much do you use, Mandy? Funnily enough I was going to ask Andrea how she does her apple juice! We have an awful lot of apples and no pigs this year!


About 1/2 teaspoon per litre - but that's very rough - I shove a bit in every batch. Obviously I'm not dealing with quantities like Bodger. I only do a few litres a time. Works for pear juice too. It comes out a lovely bright green.

TTouch Homestead



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Our bottled brown sludge tastes fantastic but looks rather disgusting too. Best I invest in some citric acid pronto.

yummersetter



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 13 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The ascorbic acid I use makes me believe the juice will cure anything! Apples plus Vitamin C have to keep the doctor away. Here's some instructions on heat treating the juice too, though we leave the bottles in the hot water for 20 mins. https://www.ciderworkshop.com/juicepasteurising.html
Lidl were selling a very good pasteuriser a few week back very cheaply, a third the price of our old Vigo one so now we can process twice as many bottles at a time.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 13 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Jamanda wrote:
gythagirl wrote:
How much do you use, Mandy? Funnily enough I was going to ask Andrea how she does her apple juice! We have an awful lot of apples and no pigs this year!


About 1/2 teaspoon per litre - but that's very rough - I shove a bit in every batch. Obviously I'm not dealing with quantities like Bodger. I only do a few litres a time. Works for pear juice too. It comes out a lovely bright green.


If you're apple juice goes bright green, then you're going a bit OTT, surely the idea is that's its the natural colour of the apple juice that you're trying to retain.
We've been pressing Discovery apples this weekend and they've produced a beautiful pink apple juice which we've tried to keep after pasteurization.

gythagirl



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 13 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We have an unknown Bramley-type cooker, an unknown dual-purpose and a Russet: does one just experiment with different ratios? We'd only be doing very small batches as we don't have a press...planning to rough chop, blender, then squeeze through jelly bag.

Bodger



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 13 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We wont start doing the Bramley apple juice for a month or more.

OtleyLad



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 13 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gythagirl wrote:
We have an unknown Bramley-type cooker, an unknown dual-purpose and a Russet: does one just experiment with different ratios? We'd only be doing very small batches as we don't have a press...planning to rough chop, blender, then squeeze through jelly bag.


Don't do it that way - its way too hard!

Freeze the apples overnight. Defrost the next day and you can almost squeeze them by hand. No need to chop or blend and you get LOTS more clear juice.

Nicky cigreen



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 13 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

definitely agree with freezing before pressing - although if you have a big bag of apples it might take longer than overnight to freeze all of them.

For personal use, we don't heat treat at all, but freeze the apple juice to keep it.

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